Hi Ethan,

Many thanks for your reply. 

Europeana has indeed harvested a (very small) part of datasets available in the 
Netherlands via different channels (aggregators and several projects). But what 
Europeana harvests are the datasets with metadata on record level, modelled in 
EDM (Europeana Data Model), *not* metadata about the datasets itself.

What we intend to do with our CKAN implementation is twofold:
 (1) get a better idea of all (open) datasets in the Netherlands, how they are 
published (e.g. as Linked Data), to facilitate the transformation to a more 
distributed model in the Netherlands.
(2) and in order to do so register these datasets and model the metadata on 
dataset level to DCAT. 

This is not something Europeana can provide for us, although our work will be 
valuable for Europeana on the long term. 

Hope this clarifies matters,

Best wishes,
Johan

> Op 6 jul. 2016 om 16:46 heeft Ethan Gruber <ewg4x...@gmail.com> het volgende 
> geschreven:
> 
> Sorry, to be a little more constructive:
> 
> If you can describe the difference between Europeana's functionality now
> and your vision for your CKAN implementation, that would be helpful for
> providing advice.
> 
>> On Wed, Jul 6, 2016 at 10:36 AM, Ethan Gruber <ewg4x...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Are these GLAMs also putting cultural heritage data into Europeana? You
>> can already filter by country (that holds the work) in Europeana.There are
>> 6 million objects from the Netherlands. Your energy might be better spent
>> either harvesting Dutch material back out of Europeana into a separate
>> Netherland-only interface or by focusing on integrating smaller
>> institutions into Europeana via OAI-PMH.
>> 
>> In fact, your own material are in Europeana:
>> http://www.europeana.eu/portal/search?f%5BCOUNTRY%5D%5B%5D=netherlands&f%5BTYPE%5D%5B%5D=SOUND&q=
>> 
>> Ethan
>> 
>> On Tue, Jul 5, 2016 at 12:19 PM, Johan Oomen <joo...@beeldengeluid.nl>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> Good afternoon,
>>> 
>>> In the Netherlands, we’re working on overhauling our current (OAI-PMH)
>>> aggregation infrastructure towards a more distributed model. The aim is to
>>> create a comprehensive collection of digitised cultural heritage objects
>>> held by GLAMs across the country. A major component of the new
>>> infrastructure is a register with collections. We are using CKAN as the
>>> data management system for these collections.
>>> 
>>> We are currently installing and configuring CKAN, and use DCAT for
>>> describing datasets. We are interested in seeing other examples of
>>> registries that describes digital heritage collections using the CKAN
>>> software. One of the challenges we encounter is describing multi level
>>> datasets like collection and sub-collections in the context of DCAT. An
>>> example is a data provider in the Netherlands that provides an aggregated
>>> oral history dataset for target audience ‘oral history’. We registered this
>>> aggregated dataset, but we also want to register individual collections for
>>> participating organisations. Therefore, the aggregated dataset is divided
>>> into parts using xpath, xslt, etc.. Now we want to explicitly mark the
>>> dataset parts as being a sub-dataset and vice versa.
>>> 
>>> Question to this community, do you have implementations that use a CKAN
>>> based registry for digital heritage collections, have you also dealt with
>>> this issue to describe sub-collections in DCAT? How did you manage this?
>>> 
>>> Your help is much appreciated,
>>> 
>>> Best wishes,
>>> 
>>> Johan Oomen
>>> Netherlands Institute for Sound and Vision
>>> @johanoomen
>> 
>> 
>> 

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