Also, note that Martin Malmsten, of the Norwegian National Library (whose catalog is a linked data catalog) always states that one of the advantages of LD is that the difference between "inside" resources and "outside" resources disappears. It's all just linked resources. It makes sense to start with an "inside" resource, since you know more about it, but the same technology should work for any linking, anywhere, any time.

kc

On 8/8/14, 7:07 AM, Mark A. Matienzo wrote:
Per Laura's message, and what I think was the underlying idea behind Mike's
post, I think there's still a great opportunity to learn something new.
Perhaps you might want to look at WebSocket [0], and Jason Ronallo's
presentation from Code4lib 2014 [1] was a great intro. It seems like this
might be a good candidate for showing real-time availability information.

[0] https://www.websocket.org/
[1] http://jronallo.github.io/presentations/code4lib-2014-websockets/

Cheers,
Mark


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On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 9:23 AM, Shaun Ellis <[email protected]> wrote:

I don't understand the "publish it and they will come" mentality when it
comes to linked data.  If you can't define a clear use case for your own
data infrastructure, then I can't see how you would justify the time spent.

The "making data available to the world at large" is a nice byproduct, but
you can't write a "use case" for "unknown users" with unknown goals.  So,
if you have no plans to use the data in some productive way, then I'm sure
you have more pressing things to do with your time.

-Shaun


On 8/7/14 9:48 AM, Scott Prater wrote:

Echoing others... the use case for linked data appears to be making data
available to the world at large, unknown consumers, who may find a use
for it that you never imagined.

Name authority services (like VIAF), catalogs of public resources, map
data -- all these are good candidates for a linked data approach.

Hardware availability at your library?  Not so much.  It's hard to
imagine a case where that information would be useful outside your walls.

-- Scott

On 08/07/2014 08:09 AM, Ethan Gruber wrote:

I agree with others saying linked data is overkill here. If you don't
have
an audience in mind or a specific purpose for implementing linked data,
it's not worth it.


On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 9:07 AM, Jason Stirnaman <[email protected]>
wrote:

  Mike,
Check out
http://json-ld.org/,
http://json-ld.org/primer/latest/, and
https://github.com/digitalbazaar/pyld

But, if you haven't yet sketched out a model for *your* data, then
the LD
stuff will just be a distraction. The information on Linked Data seems
overly complex because trying to represent data for the Semantic Web
gets
complex - and verbose.

As others have suggested, it's never a bad idea to just "do the simplest
thing that could possibly work."[1] Mark recommended writing a simple
API.
That would be a good start to understanding your data model and to
eventually serving LD. And, you may find that it's enough for now.

1. http://www.xprogramming.com/Practices/PracSimplest.html

Jason

Jason Stirnaman
Lead, Library Technology Services
University of Kansas Medical Center
[email protected]
913-588-7319

On Aug 6, 2014, at 1:45 PM, Michael Beccaria <[email protected]>
wrote:

  I have recently had the opportunity to create a new library web page
and

host it on my own servers. One of the elements of the new page that I
want
to improve upon is providing live or near live information on technology
availability (10 of 12 laptops available, etc.). That data resides on my
ILS server and I thought it might be a good time to upgrade the
bubble gum
and duct tape solution I now have to creating a real linked data service
that would provide that availability information to the web server.

The problem is there is a lot of overly complex and complicated

information out there onlinked data and RDF and the semantic web etc.
and
I'm looking for a simple guide to creating a very simple linked data
service with php or python or whatever. Does such a resource exist? Any
advice on where to start?

Thanks,

Mike Beccaria
Systems Librarian
Head of Digital Initiative
Paul Smith's College
518.327.6376
[email protected]
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