--And how did we get from "The code of conduct is sufficient so let's not overthink
things!" to "Wait, we need to implement procedures to vote on the code of conduct!"
anyway??
We got there because you replied that there was an ongoing debate about
whether the policy was sufficient enough to deal with any discomfort
folks might have about zoia. I still think the policy is sufficient, as
it's meant to be used when dealing with incidents in context, not in the
abstract. To date, no one has spoken up about an incident where they
were harassed by zoia. Unless there's something I missed, it has all
been speculation that someone might be harassed in the future.
According to the anti-harassment policy, if you read it, no action
should be taken.
To be clear, I am only uncomfortable with "uncomfortable" being used in
the policy because I wouldn't support it being there. Differing
opinions can make people uncomfortable. Since I am not going to stop
sharing what may be a dissenting opinion, should I be banned?
It's an anti-harassment policy, not a comfort policy. If you want to
see something different, it seems that now is the time to step up and
change it. :)
-----Original Message-----
From: Code for Libraries [mailto:CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU] On Behalf Of Shaun
Ellis
Sent: Friday, 25 January 2013 10:38 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTSERV.ND.EDU
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Group Decision Making (was Zoia)
I am uneasy about coming up with a policy for banning people (from
what?) and voting on it, before it's demonstrated that it's even
needed. Can't we just tackle these issues as they come up, in context,
rather than in the abstract?
I share your unease. But deciding to situations in context without a set of
guidelines is simply another kind of policy. I'm actually more uneasy about
ambiguity over what is acceptable, and no agreed upon way to handle it.
I don't think the current policy is ready to "go to vote" as it seems there is
still some debate over what it should cover and exactly what type of behavior it is meant
to prevent.
I suggest there is a set time period to submit objections as GitHub issues and resolve
them before we vote. Whatever issues can't get resolved end up in a branch/fork. In the
end, we vote on each of the forks, or "no policy at all".
Does that sound reasonable?
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Shaun Ellis
User Interace Developer, Digital Initiatives Princeton University Library
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