Actually, I find the "playing" with Zoia itself offensive. As per my
response to my own message.
It objectifies women. Treats them as play-things. Makes me very
uncomfortable. If we want to have an information bot, perhaps like the
one used by W3C which takes minutes for meetings (Zakim, I believe it
is), that seems reasonable. But to have a "play-thing" that is gendered
is a really, really bad idea. In fact, to have a "play-thing" of any
kind on the channel might not be a good idea. I know that some folks
find it fun, but it is akin to the locker-room shenanigans (at least as
I experience it), and it's a HUGE in-joke that makes it obvious to
anyone new that they aren't "in".
kc
On 1/18/13 8:20 AM, Jon Gorman wrote:
On Fri, Jan 18, 2013 at 9:38 AM, Karen Coyle <li...@kcoyle.net> wrote:
... and BTW, if people see Zoia as a bit of a problem during the conference,
doesn't that mean that Zoia is a bit of a problem all of the time? Is there
a reason to be polite and inclusive during the conference but not every day?
There's actually two different but closely related issues:
1) Plugins that generate a lot of information/responses which have
been a problem as they can interrupt flow of questions/discussions
during the conference. @blockparty lists what songs people are playing
that have registered their irc nick & scrobble. It produces a lot of
lines and a couple of calls can cause people's screens to
"scroll-off". Not a problem with the normal traffic in the room, but
when going from maybe 20/30 active participants to hundreds it can be
an issue.
There's probably some others like @google or @naf with a long response
that could be disabled as well. @naf is a nice one for demonstrating
zoia, but @marc is pretty compact and also wonderfully library-centric
;).
2) Plugins that are crude/offensive like @mf and the urban dictionary one.
I think the thread kicked off with the first one, but I think it
rapidly brought in the issue of the latter. I'm in agreement that the
latter category probably should be just removed. The first category
probably would be useful to disable during the conference but to have.
Jon Gorman
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