I started taking the "Functional Programming in Scala" course offered a couple 
of months ago, but it was an enormous time commitment. I had a week-long trip 
to the office (in the UK - my job is a long and confusing story) which got me 
so far behind (two weeks, the way the lessons ran), that I would have had no 
hope of catching up (with, like Shaun, a full-time job and two young children), 
so I had to drop out after about 3 or 4 weeks. 

I'm sort of conflicted about this. I understand Coursera's problem: courses 
can't be too simple, or else there's no legitimacy. But at the same time, every 
course can't be a weeder course, either. I legitimately spent *way* more time 
per week on this course than I did on *any* course in college (at least not 
this much effort /every week/), but at the end of the day, the amount of any 
practical knowledge I was gaining from the course was being far overwhelmed by 
things I actually needed to be learning immediately for my job and general 
obligations to my life and family. 

Maybe I just chose the wrong class, but Coursera's curriculum seems pretty 
terrible for professional development. It's great, however, if you have time to 
be a full-time student. 

-Ross. 

On Nov 30, 2012, at 4:32 PM, "Donahue, Amy" <[email protected]> wrote:

> Another little quick comment, adding to the chorus of lurkers and people who 
> aren't sure if they're coders.  Someday I hope to get to a code4lib 
> conference (if only to tell people in person I knew Jonathan Rochkind way 
> back when), but in the meantime I've been on this list on and off (but mostly 
> on) since I graduated, and it's been nothing but a wonderful resource, and a 
> place I know I can always turn for that time when I have a tech question.
> 
> But I wanted to point out a possible resource for those of us who aren't sure 
> of what we know and who want to know more.  Coursera has been on my radar 
> through multiple channels, but not yet on here.  It appears they do have some 
> basic programming courses, as well as theory.  I'm curious to know if anyone 
> has taken any of these, or has any thoughts on this method of learning... 
> https://www.coursera.org/category/cs-programming
> 
> Amy
> -------------------------------------------------------
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> 414.955.8326
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> Medical College of Wisconsin Libraries - Link. Learn. Lead.
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Code for Libraries [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Bess 
> Sadler
> Sent: Thursday, November 29, 2012 12:07 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] What is a "coder"?
> 
> On Nov 29, 2012, at 6:13 AM, Christie Peterson <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> If this were "training" in the sense of a seminar or a formal class on the 
>> exact same topics, I would be eligible for full funding, but since it's a 
>> "conference," it's funded at a significantly lower level. I'll gladly take 
>> suggestions anyone has for arguments about why attendance at these types of 
>> events is critical to successfully doing my work in a way that, say, 
>> attending ALA isn't -- and why, therefore, they should be supported at a 
>> higher funding rate than typical "library" conferences. Any non-coders 
>> successfully made this argument before?
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Christie S. Peterson
> 
> Christie you are not the only person who can get travel funding for training 
> but not for conferences, and you are not the only person on the fence about 
> whether you belong in code4lib. In my mind you are exactly the kind of person 
> I would like to attract to code4lib, so I very much hope you'll join us. 
> Archives in particular are facing significant technological challenges right 
> now, and as someone who has been known to develop software for born digital 
> archives[1] I have seen how vital it is to have a common language and 
> vocabulary, and a common way of approaching problem solving, in order to 
> create a system that will actually work according to archival principles. 
> 
> One option to consider would be signing up for one of the pre-conferences. 
> Given the background you've described and the challenges you face in your 
> career, I think you could make a very strong argument that having a basic 
> introduction to programming concepts would be helpful for you. Luckily there 
> is a free full-day of training to be had the day before the conference 
> starts! Please consider joining us at the RailsBridge and/or Blacklight 
> workshops or at any of the other workshops that look interesting to you that 
> you think you could pitch as training. 
> 
> Even outside of the code4lib context, I strongly encourage others who face 
> those kinds of travel funding constraints to get creative. Some of the best 
> learning opportunities of my life and the best pivotal moments in my career 
> happened because members of this community decided there was an unmet need 
> and they were going to do something about it. CurateCAMP springs to mind. The 
> many regional code4lib meetings are in this category. And also: one time when 
> a few code4lib folks were trying to get open source discovery projects off 
> the ground we just decided to create an "Open Source Library Discovery 
> Summit" in Philadelphia, declared ourselves invited speakers, and attended. 
> And it was a very successful meeting and a very good use of university funds! 
> 
> Christie, if there is training or skills development that, if it were offered 
> at code4lib, would do you some good, you are certainly not the only person 
> who could benefit from it. I strongly encourage you to think about what 
> training opportunities are missing in your corner of the library / archives 
> world, and then have some conversations with members of this community about 
> how we could provide that training together. I would love to hear your 
> thoughts on the subject. 
> 
> Best wishes,
> Bess 
> 
> [1] http://hypatia-demo.stanford.edu Tell your funders you have to go to 
> code4lib because hydra is the future of born digital archives and this is the 
> conference where the developers hang out and you need to talk to them about 
> strategic directions for their project so that it will address your problems. 
> :D

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