At Duke, we have removed any specific degree requirements for our technical 
positions, not just library degrees. We have found this greatly increases 
diversity and quality of applicants.

But I would suggest you go even further and remove as many buzzwords or very 
specific technology requirements as possible, too. We learned these would lead 
to applicant self-selecting out and not applying. Instead, we focus on 
experience, techniques, and broad lists of exemplar technologies, programming 
languages, etc.

As someone who holds a MS in Information & Systems Engineering (yet earned this 
degree after I started working in libraries), I find it frustrating to be fully 
qualified for positions aside from a specific library degree. When recruiters 
reach out for my assistance in finding applicants, I immediately point out the 
instances when a library degree is being specifically required, and I encourage 
them to change this.

Cheers,
Tim

Tim McGeary

Associate University Librarian for Digital Strategies and Technology

Duke University Libraries

tim.mcge...@duke.edu


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From: Code for Libraries <CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG> on behalf of Hammer, Erich F 
<er...@albany.edu>
Sent: Friday, February 17, 2023 9:20 AM
To: CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG <CODE4LIB@LISTS.CLIR.ORG>
Subject: Re: [CODE4LIB] Systems - to librarian or not to librarian?

Will,

I am the "Head of Systems" here, and I don't think I would have been considered 
for the job without my MLIS.  I had 20 years experience in IT (during which I 
worked through the degree) before being hired, and my supervisor and team 
recognized that I had no actual Library experience.  They were willing to guide 
me because of my technical abilities, but the first year was completely 
overwhelming. The complexity and lingo had my brain struggling to comprehend 
how it all fit together.  I believe I'm doing OK at the job now, but I have to 
give enormous credit to my incredible and dedicated employees and also 
recognize that the pandemic shutdown -- when I was the only person in the 
building for several months -- afforded me the opportunity to catch up and 
resolve problems that couldn't be managed in short, 15 minute segments between 
meetings and other crises.

What I'm saying is that I honestly don't think the courses I took for my degree 
did all that much to prepare me for this job.  What it may have done though is 
tell the hiring committee that I was/am interested in the concepts and 
philosophies of libraries and information science and am willing to continue 
learning.

Maybe the MLIS degree should be an alternative to x years of library experience 
(along with demonstrated technical skills).

Erich



On Thursday, February 16, 2023 at 18:24, Will Martin eloquently inscribed:

> All,
>
> We're considering taking our Systems Librarian position and removing the
> requirement for a library degree, making it a technician position instead.  
> The
> job's primary focus is in working with Alma configuration and troubleshooting
> the perennial off-campus access issues.  The hope is that removing the
> library degree requirement will make recruiting easier. In past we've had
> difficulty getting candidates who had both the library degree and the
> requisite technical proficiency.
>
> I am curious to hear from other universities: do you require your systems
> person to hold a library degree?  Why or why not?  If you do require one, do
> you find you have to do extensive technical training with new hires?  If you
> don't, do you wind up having to train people on library-related stuff?  Either
> way, how has your approach worked out?
>
> Will Martin
>
> Head of Digital Initiatives, Systems and Services
> Chester Fritz Library
> University of North Dakota
> he/his/him
>
> 701.777.4638

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