Tod,

Yep, we are a member of InCommon, do have a default attribute release policy, 
and do use Shibboleth for all sorts of other authentications.  However, based 
on many years of experience (outside the Library), I never assume anything here 
is "by convention".

For example, the IdP does release eduPersonScopedAffiliation as a default, and 
that is one of the attributes JSTOR accepts.  The current options available 
with that attribute here are not sufficient for identifying who we give access 
to eResources.  I mentioned this to our IdM group and added that JSTOR also 
accepts eduPersonEntitlement, and their immediate response is to ask about the 
criteria for the Entitlement attribute will be used and if we have examples of 
other libraries that are using it.  IOW, they haven't been asked about that 
attribute yet.

I don't really have any concerns other than if our IdM group will be willing to 
adjust their Shib attributes to be compatible with JSTOR (and other vendors).  
I'd love to go back to the IdM group with "Yes, this is pretty standard, and 
here are a few Libraries doing this".  Even better would be to add, "and here 
are the other large eResource vendors that use the same attribute and who we 
would also like to configure for SSO".  Thus, my question.

Thanks for the response.

Erich


On Thursday, March 25, 2021 at 15:54, Tod Olson eloquently inscribed:

> Hi Eric,
> 
> I see that your institution is a member of InCommon. It is likely that your 
> IdM
> group will have implemented a default attribute release policy that is based
> around InCommon conventions. JSTOR is also a member of InCommon, so
> there should be some common expectations.
> 
> Use of Shibboleth has really expanded over the last N years. On our campus
> is now used heavily for all sorts of applications outside of the library:
> administrative systems, granting agencies, etc., lots of internal and external
> SPs. A far cry from the early-adoption days.
> 
> I suggest talking to your IdM group how this transition might work, what
> concerns you might have, and whether they would share those concerns.
> 
> -Tod
> 
> Tod Olson <t...@uchicago.edu<mailto:t...@uchicago.edu>>
> Systems Librarian
> Interim Head of Integrated Library Systems
> University of Chicago Library
> 
> On Mar 25, 2021, at 10:50 AM, Hammer, Erich F
> <er...@albany.edu<mailto:er...@albany.edu>> wrote:
> 
> Hi.
> 
> We are just starting to investigate moving access some of our larger
> eResource vendors away from going through EZProxy and onto
> SSO/Shibboleth.  Our test case is JSTOR, and our Identity Management
> group that supports Shibboleth is asking about other libraries using the
> eduPersonEntitlement attribute.  We are specifically NOT interested in
> OpenAthens.
> 
> I'm also interested to know if anyone has a handle on a "standard" Shib
> attribute used by most/many of the larger vendors, or if this is going to be a
> rabbit hole where every vendor wants a different attribute and repeatedly
> negotiating with the IDM group for changes will put us on the "bad list".
> 
> I'm open to other comments and criticisms about the whole idea too.
> 
> Thanks,
> Erich
> 
>

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