I think it's also important to recognize the context.  Even if there haven't 
been recent incidents in Code4Lib, there certainly has been a spate of 
incidents in the US recently.  So I support this timely confirmation of our 
values to reassure people that Code4Lib is a place where they welcome and 
valued.

-Esmé

> On Nov 18, 2016, at 9:53 AM, Joseph Montibello 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
>    - Have there been recent incidents of "... bigotry, intolerance, hatred, 
> harassment, and violence in Code4Lib" that warrant a re-iterated statement?
> 
> I have been surprised in the past - when people have asked this question in 
> other library discussion forums that I've been a part of, the answer from 
> many people in those forums has been "Yes, that happened to me." (That's 
> happened often enough in different venues that I'm no longer surprised.) 
> Often those who have answered in that way have also said that they do not 
> want to discuss those issues further. Code4Lib has had discussions over the 
> past few years that touch on this as well.
> 
>     - What are C4L's desired outcomes of "diversity, equity, and inclusion", 
> and will such a statement improve the attainment of such ends? Is the goal of 
> C4L to promote "diversity, equity, and inclusion" within C4L, the software 
> technology community at large, or beyond?
> 
> My own desired outcome, worth no more than a simple +1, is that diversity, 
> equity, and inclusion are normalized within C4L and in the realm of library 
> technology. I believe that the statement brings us closer to that by 
> explicitly addressing the lack of diversity in the tech sector. I hope that 
> as we get closer to that outcome, we will have a positive impact beyond this 
> little community. 
> 
>    - What constitutes "bigotry, intolerance, hatred, harassment, and 
> violence" is not always obvious, and often needs to be teased out through 
> reasoned dialogue.
> 
> I agree that reasoned dialogue is a valid approach to understanding things. 
> However, empathy is another valid approach to understanding things. Bigotry, 
> intolerance, hatred, harassment, and violence are all inextricable from human 
> emotions, so I (again, speaking only for myself) tend to feel that empathy is 
> a better guiding principle for dealing with these issues.
> 
>    - If inclusion spans "all technologists", then excluding those who dissent 
> or present points of view bordering on "bigotry, intolerance, hatred, 
> harassment, and violence" will be silenced, and likely to (further) develop 
> resentment and anger, leading to further division. Is it better to exclude 
> such people through language as forcefully as possible, or promote an 
> environment of reasoned dialogue and relating to the "other"? When people are 
> silenced they may go underground, and is it better to be underground or in 
> the open?
> 
> I don't think we can have a group where people whose views border on violence 
> feel comfortable expressing themselves, and people who have been targeted by 
> violence also feel comfortable expressing themselves. Empirically, there are 
> plenty of professional spaces where diversity, equity and inclusion are not 
> happening, or not encouraged, or actively quashed. The statement Bohyun and 
> others have been working on reflects my personal belief that Code4Lib should 
> not be one of them.
> 
>    - Will this re-iterated statement promote self-monitoring and 
> self-censorship and thereby decrease diversity, one of the primary values of 
> C4L?
> 
> Self-monitoring and self-censorship are already going on - in addition to the 
> things I mentioned in my answer to the first point, I would also draw 
> attention to Code4Lib's ongoing discussions of impostor syndrome. If we 
> choose to increase our local diversity by including bigotry, intolerance, 
> hatred, harassment, or violence, then we are choosing to also decrease 
> broader diversity by being just another group where those things are 
> normalized.
> 
> Once again, just my two cents.
> Joe Montibello, MLIS
> Library Systems Manager
> Dartmouth College
> 603.646.9394
> [email protected]
> 
> 
> 

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