On Jan 30, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Jens Alfke <j...@mooseyard.com> wrote: > And C++ 
partisans would tell you that many of these things are limitations of the usual 
C++ runtimes, not the language itself, but I'm not aware of any current 
runtimes that avoid them. I bet those same partisans would be the first to the 
barricades to complain about the performance downsides of any C++ runtime 
implementation that did try to improve ABI fragility. -- Greg Parker 
gpar...@apple.com Runtime Wrangler 
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On Jan 30, 2014, at 2:14 PM, Jens Alfke <j...@mooseyard.com> wrote: > And C++ 
partisans would tell you that many of these things are limitations of the usual 
C++ runtimes, not the language itself, but I'm not aware of any current 
runtimes that avoid them. I bet those same partisans would be the first to the 
barricades to complain about the performance downsides of any C++ runtime 
implementation that did try to improve ABI fragility. -- Greg Parker 
gpar...@apple.com Runtime Wrangler 
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