That's a great thread, thanks!

BTW Apple removed the splitview-without-NSSplitView sample code that's 
mentioned in the thread.  For anyone still interested, someone named Darcy Liu 
seems to have been archiving all of Apple's sample code:

<https://github.com/darcyliu/CocoaSampleCode>

The splitview example is here:

<https://github.com/darcyliu/CocoaSampleCode/tree/master/Cocoa_Autolayout_Demos/SplitView>

And Darcy has a similar archive of iOS code:

<https://github.com/darcyliu/SampleCode>

You can't just download an individual sample project AFAICT -- you have to 
clone or download the entire repo -- but that's not such a bad thing.

--Andy

On Jan 9, 2014, at 11:00 AM, Michael Starke 
<michael.sta...@hicknhack-software.com> wrote:

> If I recall correctly, if you did implement ANY delegate method using
> 10.7 the split view did fall back to a "non-autolayout" aware mode. At
> least that was my experince. It did change with 10.8. But take this with
> a lot of caution. My memory tends to mess up those things :)
> 
> Ah. There was something:
> http://www.cocoabuilder.com/archive/cocoa/326128-nssplitview-not-resizing-subviews-if-delegate-is-used.html#326128
> 
> -Michael
> 
> On 09.01.2014 16:51, Andy Lee wrote:
>> On Jan 6, 2014, at 11:54 AM, Fritz Anderson <fri...@manoverboard.org> wrote:
>>> On 4 Jan 2014, at 1:38 PM, thatsanicehatyouh...@me.com wrote:
>>> 
>>> I like your user name.
>>> 
>>>> I have a couple of questions about using auto layout (AL) with NSSplitView 
>>>> and NSScrollView. I have watched the (excellent) WWDC videos from 2012, 
>>>> but am having problems.
>>>> I'm trying to implement an NSSplitView
>>> 
>>> [… that collapses one of the views if the user resizes it below a set 
>>> minimum.]
>>> The next thing I’d try (meaning I have no experience and no time to make 
>>> the experiment; others’ solutions would trump mine; and I seem to remember 
>>> this is a solved problem to be found in the archives of this list, Stack 
>>> Overflow, or [ugh] the Developer Forums) is to see whether listening to the 
>>> collapsing view’s NSFrameDidChangeNotification was of help. If the frame 
>>> goes below minimum width, replace the width constraint with a zero.
>> 
>> [same disclaimers as Fritz]
>> 
>> As far as I know (see disclaimers), there's no reason you can't implement 
>> split view delegate methods just because you're using Auto Layout, as long 
>> as you aren't calling setFrame:.  I would guess it's perfectly all right to 
>> implement splitView:constrainSplitPosition:ofSubviewAt:, examine the 
>> proposedPosition argument, and allow the view's width to be either zero or 
>> >= the minimum width but not in between.
>> You might have to fiddle with constraints for the reason Fritz gives:
>> 
>>> Constraints for contained views would tend to push the collapsed view’s 
>>> width out, but reducing the priorities of some of the constraints on the 
>>> views that would push back should take care of that.
>> 
>> You could also add a *higher*-priority constraint that says the collapsed 
>> view's width must be 0, and this would trump the constraints that tend to 
>> push back.  I think.
>> 
>> --Andy
>> 
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