On Sep 12, 2013, at 1:49 PM, Greg Parker wrote:

> On Sep 12, 2013, at 1:45 PM, Lee Ann Rucker <lruc...@vmware.com> wrote:
>> On Sep 12, 2013, at 9:57 AM, Bill Cheeseman wrote:
>>> As I recall, it stated that the "return [[x retain] autorelease]" pattern 
>>> is preferred for getters and gave many reasons for preferring it. 
>> 
>> Coincidentally enough, we've just hit a case where that's bad - it's a 
>> complicated situation with ObjC++ and C++ object lifetimes, resulting in an 
>> accessor that uses that pattern being called as a result of that object 
>> being in dealloc. By the time the autorelease pool pops the object it's 
>> trying to release is long gone. It's KVO unregistering, so there's not much 
>> we can do about it other than be smarter in our accessors.
> 
> In some cases you can add an @autoreleasepool inside the object's -dealloc 
> method to catch these.

Ooh, yes, that works great! 

So many new language features, so little time...
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