On May 13, 2013, at 11:38 PM, Quincey Morris 
<quinceymor...@rivergatesoftware.com> wrote:
> On May 13, 2013, at 19:41 , Graham Cox <graham....@bigpond.com> wrote:
> 
>> When you call -removeFromSuperview, the view is deleted, as there are no 
>> more references to it. The other methods are not called because the object 
>> ceases to exist.
> 
> I believe your warning is apposite, but is not actually the cause of Tom's 
> problem. After removing the view, his code adds it back again. If the view 
> had already been deallocated, you'd expect a pretty big crash pretty soon 
> (though not necessarily immediately).
> 
> My guess is that the removed view is still retained by something,

I believe ARC keeps it alive by virtue of self being a strong reference. I did 
a quick test and found that if I do

- (void) mouseDown: (NSEvent*) event
{
    NSView* superView = [self superview];
    [self removeFromSuperview];
//    [superView addSubview: self];
}

...then dealloc does in fact get called. But if I uncomment that one line, 
which references self, dealloc does not get called. This is good news -- I 
would want ARC to work regardless of whether it calls non-ARC code, and vice 
versa.

> but that removing a view from its window causes the mouse-dragging state 
> machine to be reset. If so, immediately re-adding the view isn't going to 
> restore the dragging state.

This sounds very plausible.

> 
> I think the trick is to avoid removing the view from its superview. I'm not 
> sure of the *best* way of doing this, but here are the things I'd try:
> 
> -- Invoke 'addSubview: self' without first removing self.

On May 13, 2013, at 11:56 PM, Thomas Wetmore <t...@verizon.net> wrote:
> This works. Thanks for the tip.

Oh, good. I was going to suggest instead of removing and re-adding self, that 
you remove and re-add all the sibling views that are in front of self so that 
they are behind self, using addSubview:positioned:relativeTo:. That would have 
been very ugly.

--Andy


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