On Aug 22, 2012, at 12:01 PM, Derek Chesterfield wrote:

> They can *expect* that you will do the right thing. But they can't be 
> expected to *know* that you really are. 

Well, if I don't, I get fired.  That's enough motivation for me.


> On 22 Aug 2012, at 16:52, Alex Zavatone <z...@mac.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 11:40 AM, Kyle Sluder wrote:
>> 
>>> On Aug 22, 2012, at 8:29 AM, Jayson Adams <jay...@circusponies.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Ah, that explains why all of Apple's apps are sandboxed  Riiiiight.
>>> 
>>> The big ones are: Mail, Safari, Preview.
>>> 
>>> There have been legitimate problems with the rollout of sandboxing. It 
>>> doesn't support certain interactions that are fundamental to some apps, and 
>>> yet it was forced upon them by the MAS. Sandboxing errors are opaque, and 
>>> code signing is cryptic.
>>> 
>>> But arguing against the basic premise of sandboxing is a fruitless 
>>> endeavor. The user cannot and should not be forced to trust you to do the 
>>> right thing.
>>> 
>>> --Kyle Sluder
>> 
>> Actually Kyle, when you're not catering to the mass market, but targeted 
>> clients, the user requires you to do the right thing.  
>> 
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