> BTW, if the NSSplitView hasn't been updated to use constraints in its own 
> layout, then why does it and up changing the size at runtime? For that matter 
> it seems like IB is expressly forbidding adding constraints to the 
> NSSplitView's panes.
There are known bugs with NSSplitView and auto layout on OS X 10.7 with both 
the runtime and with IB.  Mainly, even if you say a particular pane should be 
>= 100 (for example), you can still drag the splitter right past the 100pt mark.

See the WWDC videos from this year for more information…


On Jul 8, 2012, at 9:01 PM, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com> wrote:

> Thanks for all your help, Charles.
> 
> So, I'm getting the exact same behavior your video shows. I definitely don't 
> want the bottom pane to get any smaller, and I can enforce that the old way, 
> but it seems pretty lame that they didn't update it to work with autolayout.
> 
> I figured out why it was adding extra constraints to the top pane; I've got 
> that down to four. There don't appear to be any problems there (other than an 
> inability to specify a minimum height).
> 
> It's the bottom that has so many issues.
> 
> I just sent you the NIB file. I'm going to keep poking at it.
> 
> BTW, if the NSSplitView hasn't been updated to use constraints in its own 
> layout, then why does it and up changing the size at runtime? For that matter 
> it seems like IB is expressly forbidding adding constraints to the 
> NSSplitView's panes.
> 
> -- 
> Rick
> 
> 
> On Jul 8, 2012, at 20:46 , Charles Srstka wrote:
> 
>> On Jul 8, 2012, at 10:23 PM, Rick Mann wrote:
>> 
>>> On Jul 8, 2012, at 19:01 , Charles Srstka wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Argh, now this stuff is frustrating. I really, really wish those 
>>>> autoresizing masks would stay out of it when autolayout is on. I’m 
>>>> assuming this is the lower text view; could you post a screenshot of all 
>>>> the constraints for that view? They should be listed nicely in the Size 
>>>> inspector in IB.
>>> 
>>> Do I need to turn off the translatesAutoresizingMaskIntoConstraints on all 
>>> my views? It's annoying, because IB doesn't actually me specify 
>>> autoresizing masks, and I'm using autolayout in the nib file.
>> 
>> I don’t think so, since I just decided to try to recreate your nib file at 
>> home and see if I could reproduce the problem. I think I *have* found the 
>> source of some of your “broken constraint” messages; I had forgotten 
>> something about split views; seems my initial instinct was wrong, and it 
>> doesn’t seem to use constraints to determine the position of the splitter. 
>> Moreover, it doesn’t let constraints keep the user from resizing the bottom 
>> pane smaller than your minimum size for that view, and when you do it, you 
>> get a crapton of broken constraint warnings (both these things are probably 
>> due to NSSplitView being created well before the advent of constraints and 
>> not being completely savvy regarding them). So you actually want to make the 
>> priority of the “Bottom Space” constraints 999 instead of 1000. This allows 
>> the layout system to actually move these views below the bounds of its 
>> superview if it has to. You also want to make a “Greater than or Equal” 
>> constraint from the button to the top edge of the superview, so that the 
>> constraint system pushes it off the bottom rather than the top. This video 
>> will sort of demonstrate:
>> 
>> http://www.charlessoft.com/extraneous_stuff/constraints.m4v
>> 
>> Next, I’m going to try to see if I can figure out a way to screw this xib 
>> file up and make it exhibit the behavior you’re describing. I’m a bit 
>> suspicious of all those constraints for the top pane, which should really be 
>> only four, one for each edge of the text view. Could you expand that pane a 
>> bit more so I can see the descriptions of all those constraints a little 
>> better?
>> 
>> Charles
> 
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