On 2011 Aug 08, at 09:43, Sean McBride wrote:

> Despite knowing that well (after learning it the hard way long ago), I found 
> another place where I do so.  But not in a direct way!  A controller object 
> is using KVO to observe many things.  Sometimes in response to these changes, 
> it ends of firing a fault, which leads to more KVO, etc.

Yes, I probably have a lot of that going on too.

> Suffice to say that I ended up with awakeFromFetch in the backtrace (30 
> frames ago) and then changed a relationship.

I want to make sure this is not harder than I think.

My Foo class has not overridden -awakeFromFetch.

My Bar class does this…

- (void)awakeFromFetch
{
    [super awakeFromFetch] ;

    NSDictionary* exids = [[self localStoreManager] exidsForBar:self] ;
    [self setIvarExids:exids] ;
}

-localStoreManager is an object which accesses a "local" persistent store, 
which it identifies per the Bar object's -managedObjectContext.  Thus, we get 
'exids' from this other store and cache it in  ivarExids which is, as the name 
implies, a regular instance variable.

With this, I conclude that I am clean as far as not setting relationships in 
-awakeFromFetch.  Are there other back doors which I haven't checked?

Jerry_______________________________________________

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