On 19 Jul 2010, at 23:30, Rick Mann wrote:

> 
> On Jul 19, 2010, at 15:28:24, Kyle Sluder wrote:
> 
>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 2:33 PM, Laurent Daudelin
>> <laur...@nemesys-soft.com> wrote:
>>> On Jul 19, 2010, at 14:24, Kyle Sluder wrote:
>>> 
>>>> On Mon, Jul 19, 2010 at 1:33 PM, Rick Mann <rm...@latencyzero.com> wrote:
>>>>> I have a basic NSDocument-based app with no window controllers. When the 
>>>>> document's single window opens (as a result of a New or Open command), I 
>>>>> want to open a drawer attached to it. But I don't immediately see in 
>>>>> NSDocument how to know that the window has just opened. Where might be a 
>>>>> good place to put a call to -[NSDrawer open]?
>>>> 
>>>> 1. You shouldn't use drawers anymore, as per the HIG.
>>> 
>>> I didn't know the drawers were no longer in the favors of the powers that 
>>> be. Where is this mentioned, out of curiosity and my self edification?
>> 
>> At the risk of sounding like a liar, I can't find it in the HIG or in
>> the AppKit release notes. I could have sworn it said to use source
>> lists instead of drawers.
> 
> Ah, it does, in the context of navigating hierarchical data. But "for 
> controls that need to be accessed fairly frequently but that don’t need to be 
> visible all the time," drawers apparently are appropriate.

Well seeing as Keynote still has one, I hope so!
(Note I do rather like drawers myself, when used 
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