Hi Martin,

Many thanks for your reply (as always :) ). And d'oh, yes, the glyph/character 
thing was an oversight - I'm usually very careful about this as I am aware they 
can be very different, so thanks for picking me up on that. Also thanks for the 
pointer to -ensureLayoutForCharacterRange: - that works perfectly. So my new 
method looks like this:

- (void)forceInitialLayout
{
NSInteger charIndex = (20000 > [[self textStorage] length] ? [[self 
textStorage] length] : 20000);
if (charIndex > 0)
{
if(floor(NSAppKitVersionNumber) >= NSAppKitVersionNumber10_5)
{
[layoutManagerensureLayoutForCharacterRange:NSMakeRange(0, charIndex)];
}
else
{
charIndex -= 1;
[layoutManagerlocationForGlyphAtIndex:[layoutManagerglyphIndexForCharacterAtIndex:charIndex]];
}
}
}

I think your explanation of the problem is most likely spot on, too - the text 
container of the glyph is different after layout has finished. I do have 
noncontiguous layout enabled, but the above seems to work nicely either way.

Thanks again!
All the best,
Keith


----- Original Message ----
From: Martin Wierschin <mar...@nisus.com>
To: Keith Blount <keithblo...@yahoo.com>
Cc: Cocoa Developers <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com>
Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 10:52:07 PM
Subject: Re: Forcing text layout

Hello Keith!

> - (void)forceInitialLayout
> {
> NSInteger charIndex = (50000 > [[self textStorage] length] ? [[self 
> textStorage] length] : 50000);
> if (charIndex > 0)
> {
> charIndex -= 1;
> [layoutManagerlocationForGlyphAtIndex:charIndex];

You shouldn't play loose which character/glyph indexes. I'm sure you know, but 
the mapping between chars/glyphs is arbitrary and your method could 
theoretically trigger an out-of-bounds exception. In practice it probably won't 
because I believe the Cocoa typesetter always produces more glyphs than 
characters (eg: inserting null glyphs as padding).

That point aside, I've also experienced issues with when forcing layout to a 
specific character index. Notably that the the mapping from characters to 
glyphs doesn't seem stable until layout is complete. I've seen 
-[NSLayoutManager numberOfGlyphs] change before/after layout! Perhaps the 
TextEdit code you quoted fails for that reason, eg: the mapping from the final 
character index (the image attachment) to its corresponding glyph changes after 
layout finishes.

My solution was to conditionally use -[NSLayoutManager 
ensureLayoutForCharacterRange:] when running on Leopard or later. That punts 
the problem entirely to Apple to solve. Another thing to check: do you have 
discontinuous layout enabled? I never did, but perhaps that's a factor for you.

~Martin


      
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