On Mar 10, 2010, at 8:04 PM, Quincey Morris wrote:

> On Mar 10, 2010, at 15:54, Brian Postow wrote:
> 
>> Basically, I want the topView to scroll, but I always want to be able to see 
>> the buttonView. So if part of the topView isn't visible because it's been 
>> scrolled up, I want the buttonview at the top of the screen.
>> 
>> I think what I want is to have a sort of topView2 which is the intersection 
>> between topView and the contentView of the ScrollView, if that makes more 
>> sense...
> 
> It makes sense, but it doesn't have much precedent in terms of known Mac 
> interfaces. Won't the visual effect be that the buttons appear to float over 
> the window content some of the time? But with the weird side effect that the 
> image below the buttons will get smaller as you scroll, until ... what? At 
> some point does the image view get too small and disappear? When there's not 
> enough vertical room to show the whole buttons, do they start scrolling out 
> of the window?
> 
> It seems awfully ad-hoc, but anyway ...

Yeah, I think that that is what I wanted, and yeah, it does sound a little 
ad-hoc...
> 
>> In case the backstory helps, I'm writing a plugin for Mozilla. So, the 
>> outermost scrollwindow is the firefox "view", and then my plugin is within 
>> an HTML frame inside the page, so I'm scrolling around in the firefox 
>> window, and whenever my plugin is visible, I want the buttons at the top of 
>> it... 
> 
> Yeah, that does help a bit.
> 
> If you must follow this approach, then I'd suggest you register to get 
> frame-changed notifications from topView. That way, you'll know if it moved 
> within the window, or if it was resized as a result of the window/enclosing 
> view resizing. Also, turn off auto-resizing for subviews of topView.
> 
> When you get a notification, examine the geometry of the page, and re-layout 
> your subviews appropriately (float the buttons, resize the image, etc). 
> You'll then be able to avoid geometry collapse when the visible part of 
> topView gets small.

Interesting. I think I agree with you that this sounds like it's more effort 
than it's worth... I like your approach, and I'll probably end up using it if 
and when this feature makes it back to the top of my list...

> 


THANKS!

Brian Postow
Senior Software Engineer
Acordex Imaging Systems

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