David Blanton wrote:

> So, it is not the workman it is the tool. Proven by how long it took  
> Apple to include toolbar support in IB and the fact that there is not  
> one answer or example anywhere on how to do what is supposed to be  
> trivial.  Ergo, I stand by may statement that a trivial task in MFC is  
> consuming lots of time to do in Cocoa. Does that not point to either  
> poor tool design or poor documentation?

Your statement is flawed, both as a matter of fact and of logic. Nothing about 
the scenario or circumstances you describe "proves" the tool is flawed.

I just sat down and attempted to accomplish what you're describing. It took 15 
minutes and well under a dozen lines of code. Given that I've done nothing with 
toolbars in the past, I consider this to meet the colloquial definition of 
"trivial." Your original question was this: "What am I not enabling to keep 
this from being visible?"

I submit that the question is flawed. You shouldn't be asking what you've 
neglected to do. You should be looking at what you *are* doing that's 
preventing proper operation. And that's not going to be answered here based on 
the amount of code I've seen you post.
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