I made the same mistake again, of not posting to the list but to my respondent. Fritz, I am sorry.
Just to let you know, this was exactly what I required, I managed to get it working and there was absolutely no additional code required to get it to restore! Not that I needed it, but further proof of how far superior the Objective-C/Cocoa paradigm is to C#/.NET Thanks again Fritz On 21 Nov 2009, at 10:09, Michael Davey wrote: > > On 21 Nov 2009, at 08:19, Fritz Anderson wrote: > >> On 20 Nov 2009, at 2:02 AM, Michael Davey wrote: >> >>> Basically, when you minimise the application, it is window goes down into >>> the dock as per normal, but once this has been doe it then vanishes from >>> the dock, and does not re-appear. Does anyone know if this is possible >>> within Cocoa and which class docs I need to look at to begin implementing >>> it? >> >> Important threshold point: Mac OS X is not Windows. You can't minimize an >> application — there is nothing on the screen that reifies a whole >> application.* Applications appear in the form of a set of windows. If there >> is more than one window, or more than one document, they are all a part of >> the same application instance. > > My application only has one window, so this dicussion is a bit moot, but I > see your point. > >> >> What this sounds like is that the application hides itself when one of its >> windows is miniaturized. ([NSApp hide: nil] when a window's delegate >> receives windowDidMiniaturize:) > > This does indeed sound like what I want to do - I guess what I need to know > now is how to set a delegate for a window and how to capture events (will try > looking for that myself first) > >> >> I'm curious to know what the use case for this behavior is. On first >> impression it sounds like a crummy thing to do to the user. When a Mac user >> clicks the yellow button, he means that he wants to send the window to the >> Dock. That's what it means in every other application,** and it's not right >> to appropriate the gesture to mean something else. >> >> If the user wants to hide the application, he already knows how to do that: >> Select Hide (or cmd-H) from the application menu. He doesn't need another >> way to do it. >> >> Or do you mean just to remove the one window from the Dock, leaving all the >> other windows visible? Again, I'd argue it's a misuse of the gesture. >> Minimize means "minimize," not "vanish." If you want "vanish," close the >> window, using the close button or menu command, and not the gesture and >> animation that say, "I'm going to the Dock, and you can find me there." Your >> application can always bring a closed window back if you want it. >> >> I may be missing something in what you're saying. Can you explain what you >> mean to do in more detail? >> >> — F > > My application is a long running, almost server like application, and the > window only really serves the purpose of starting/stopping certain services. > Once they are running, having the window visible may actually be a problem as > services could be stopped accidentally. > > I do appreciate your sentiments of "the User" and why the experience of using > a Mac should be as consistent as possible, however, what you seem to be > suggesting is that all applications should behave exactly one way whether it > is pertinent to the application or not. > > And one other question, as the application will only then have it's normal > dock applcation visible as a way to re-instate the window, could you possibly > tell me how this is done? > > Mikey _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com
