On Wed, Nov 19, 2008 at 6:06 PM, Filip van der Meeren <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I disagree, the retain, autorelease and release are all defined within the > Foundation framework. > And that is something that belongs together with the Objective-C language > (according to me); I know it does not need it to exist as a language, but > Objective-C is kind of useless without the Foundation framework... > > I really don't see myself creating a NSObject interface each time I create a > terminal project! ;-)
It's useless without *a* foundation framework, but Foundation is not the only one. I did a great deal of productive work in Objective-C before ever touching any libraries with a NeXT/Apple heritage. From that perspective, everything that starts with NS is outside the language and in libraries. From a pure Apple perspective it's not so clear. Various Apple additions such as properties and garbage collection have blurred the line even further. But still, ObjC can be quite useful without Foundation. Mike _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
