On Oct 5, 2008, at 08:01, Michael Ash wrote:

Pardon me? Cocoa did perfectly fine for over a decade having this be
the *only* way to do things. Bindings only came about in 10.3,
practically yesterday. And some of us still aren't too convinced about
their ultimate utility either. In any case, directly manipulating the
user interface, while perhaps not as shiny and new as bindings, is
*definitely* "Cocoa-like".

Beg pardon, I wasn't trying to be dogmatic or controversial, and the "rather" in "rather un-Cocoa-like" was an essential qualifier.

Let me make one attempt at rephrasing my point, then I'll shut up.

One of the great things about Cocoa is that it frequently allows us to avoid writing user-interface glue code (like getting a value out of one text field and putting a calculated result in a different text field, as in the OP's example). There's nothing wrong with user- interface glue code other than that it's often quite tedious to write in any quantity (and even more so to rewrite when the user interface changes). Although bindings are not the simplest Cocoa technology and have their frustrating aspects, the combination of bindings and a MVC design pattern promotes code brevity through reusability via frameworks, and those are very Cocoa-like advantages.


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