On Jun 29, 2008, at 8:02 AM, Charles Srstka wrote:

Yes, but it's not obvious, which is why I thought to point it out since we're discussing the times when you should and shouldn't release objects. The alloc, init, and retain methods are also documented, but that doesn't mean we can't help people out with them, does it? I just think that the standard "release something only if you inited or retained it" advice should be amended to "release something only if you inited or retained it, or if you got it from a NIB."

No, it shouldn't. Because exactly what you do with objects you get from a nib depends on a number of factors. The memory management guide itself has a complete article on the subject: <http://developer.apple.com/documentation/Cocoa/Conceptual/MemoryMgmt/Articles/MemMgmtNibObjects.html >
which any Cocoa developer should have read as part of the fundamentals.

The basic memory management rules are simple and straightforward, and should be preserved as such -- simple and straightforward as they are they still seem to cause enough confusion.

mmalc

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