Unfortunately, it appears that it's 100% predictable---it fails on a M1 chipped computer and works on an Intel chipped computer (or an M1 running the software through Rosetta).
> I can say it has been true in the past, even if it is no longer the > case. It is not something I test with each OS release. I certainly can > move a window almost entirely offscreen-enough to not notice it at > least. Also, your suggestion that the window may have an invalid size > could also be the case, additionally revealed by logging the window > frame. I have seen some auto layout wonkiness that forces too-small > frame, though not enough to make it disappear. > > Keary Suska > Esoteritech, Inc. > "Demystifying technology for your home or business" > > > > > On Nov 15, 2021, at 7:13 AM, Tom Doan via Cocoa-dev > > <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote: > > > > Thanks, but is that true? I've tried forcing the window off screen > > with setFrame: and it still shows up (generally pinned to the top of > > the visible frame) even though the [NSWindow frame] returns the > > "off-screen" location that I programmed in. The only way I have > > found to make the window "invisible" is to give it a non-positive > > size, and then pulling it off the window menu still won't show it. > > > >> Have you logged the window coordinates? It might be placed fully > >> offscreen, and that would produce the behavior you are seeing. > >> > >> Keary Suska > >> Esoteritech, Inc. > >> "Demystifying technology for your home or business" > >> > >> > >> > >>> On Nov 13, 2021, at 9:52 AM, Tom Doan via Cocoa-dev > >>> <cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com> wrote: > >>> > >>> I'm having a problem with an application where a small percentage > >>> of users have one particular NSWindow type which doesn't show even > >>> though it goes through a makeKeyAndOrderFront. It's on the window > >>> list and will open if they do a tile, cascade or window switch > >>> operation, but doesn't come up initially. I can't reproduce this > >>> on any of my computers running three different flavors of MacOS > >>> (including Big Sur and Monterey). What should I be looking for > >>> that might cause this behavior. > >>> > >>> Best regards, > >>> > >>> Tom Doan > >>> --- > >>> 2717 Harrison St > >>> Evanston, IL 60201 > >>> USA > >>> > >>> > >>> _______________________________________________ > >>> > >>> Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > >>> > >>> Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the > >>> list. Contact the moderators at > >>> cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > >>> > >>> Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > >>> https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/cocoa-dev%40esot > >>> er itech.com > >>> > >>> This email sent to cocoa-...@esoteritech.com > >> > > > > > > --- > > 2717 Harrison St > > Evanston, IL 60201 > > USA > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) > > > > Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. > > Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com > > > > Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: > > https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/cocoa-dev%40esoter > > itech.com > > > > This email sent to cocoa-...@esoteritech.com > --- 2717 Harrison St Evanston, IL 60201 USA _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: https://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to arch...@mail-archive.com