On May 22, 2008, at 9:36 PM, Graham Cox wrote:
On 23 May 2008, at 3:20 am, Andy Lee wrote:
That may be, but that is different from demanding that Apple "lower
the barriers" by changing Cocoa itself to resemble those platforms.
I think many of the additions in Object-C 2.0 and the addition of
garbage collection is *precisely* a case of changing Cocoa to
resemble other platforms (i.e. Java). Personally I don't find any of
the new features all that compelling, though they are no doubt
worthwhile for many. Since veteran Cocoa programmers have managed
fine without any of these for a long time, I can only deduce that
these changes were added by Apple for the express purpose of
lowering the barriers to entry for programmers coming from a Java
or .NET background.
I think it would a stretch to conclude that GC and properties have
opened the door to a flood of bad applications which will devalue the
Mac platform. I know you didn't go so far as to say this, but that's
the concern I was addressing when I responded to the phrase "lowering
the barriers."
I can understand the desire to keep the Cocoa community small and
select (especially if one is already part of that community) and
perhaps to benefit from what Paul Graham calls the Python paradox: <http://paulgraham.com/pypar.html
>. On the other hand, it seems like we're stuck with an increasingly
popular platform, and one that's fun and free to develop for. Tough
luck, I guess. :)
--Andy
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