On May 16, 2008, at 10:50 AM, Jens Alfke wrote:
but there are still a lot of concepts and details to learn, and many times their topology does not reduce to a directed acyclic graph (i.e. you can't present them in order without forward references.)
Jens, I was going to bring up the concept of forward references, but I ran off to run an errand and now I find you beat me to it. ;)
I think this gets at what a lot of people complain about when they feel overwhelmed by the things they need to learn to start developing with Cocoa. (There's also the issue of people trying to do too much too soon, as has been mentioned, but that's a separate discussion.) Forward references are what the concepts docs are for, but for some reason, they don't seem to be serving that purpose for some people. I'm not sure why.
With the rapidly increasing popularity of Cocoa development (as evidenced by the sold-out WWDC), I wonder if the market for Cocoa instruction will grow as well. I don't just mean more books, as welcome as those will be. I feel like introductory Cocoa is the sort of thing where face-to-face instruction makes a huge difference. I can imagine someone taking the road maps that Erik Buck started this thread with (a pretty good pass at linearizing the DAG, IMO) and building a curriculum around them. This could be used in a Continuing Education course, or in an after-work study program like some companies have. People could offer video courses too.
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