On Sat, Mar 8, 2008 at 10:16 PM, Kirk Kerekes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> IMNTBHO, OpenStep/GnuStep are not useful means for achieving cross- > platform GUI applications, at least not if the platforms are OS-X and > Win32. > > Anyone who would disagree should point two out. > > OTOH, Cocotron, <http://groups.google.com/group/cocotron-dev> while > spottily incomplete, is Doing It Right. I disagree - In my opinion, the Right Way (tm) to portability is to take advantage of MVC design, with a portable model layer and as many platform-specific views as you need. Recent "switchers" may not have heard about it, but old-school Mac users have seen what happens when you try to create portable views - Word 6. I think Cocotron is a great start for portable model layers - a portable Foundation that (unlike GNUStep) has minimal .dll or other baggage on Windows. But, what I'd like to see beyond that is a new Objective-C "WinKit" framework around Win32. It could certainly use an API similar to Cocoa's wherever it makes sense to do so. But, I don't think it needs to be a perfect method-for-method Cocoa clone to be incredibly useful, so I wouldn't bother trying to emulate stuff like sheets and drawers. They'd be foreign and confusing to Windows users, so I wouldn't want to use them in a Windows port anyway. Sure, with a "WinKit" that's only partially Cocoa-compatible, I'd have to write separate platform-specific views. But I want to do that anyway, to have a truly native port. All I want is to write both views in Objective-C, and use Foundation in my model. That's not one-click portability, but it's still a big step above having to use C++ in my model and the Windows view. sherm-- _______________________________________________ Cocoa-dev mailing list (Cocoa-dev@lists.apple.com) Please do not post admin requests or moderator comments to the list. Contact the moderators at cocoa-dev-admins(at)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Update your Subscription: http://lists.apple.com/mailman/options/cocoa-dev/archive%40mail-archive.com This email sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
