On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 11:28 AM Bill Coleman <colt...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Sorry for this redundant comment Dave, but to go over the sealing of the
> pump, I would remove the impeller, smear a bunch of either vaseline or
> silicone grease on the back and circumference and blades, push it on
> firmly, maybe put a straightedge across the face of it to make sure there
> is no space between the straightedge and the vanes. If your pump has a
> recessed gasket space or O ring so that the metal plate actually touches
> the edges of the pump, then there shouldn't be any space between  the cover
> plate and the rubber vanes. If the gasket holds it away, then the vanes
> should be proud of the housing  by that amount so the cover plate *just*
> contacts the vanes.. Then put more goop on the cover plate so you can
> create suction.  In a perfect world, you would not need to do that, but . .
> Then check the hose coming out of the pump to see if the water comes out
> right after the pump.
>  Also, Do you have a vented loop in that line anywhere, that might be
> something to check out.
>
> Bill Coleman
> Erie
>
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2025 at 8:21 AM David Knecht via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> As I always told my students, there are no bad questions or dumb
>> questions or insulting questions.  Just questions.  So I appreciate
>> everyone trying to help.  It is why I love this community.  Knowing you are
>> all out there gives me confidence to tackle problems that don't have
>> YouTube videos to walk me through.
>>
>>
>> To sum from some earlier questions:
>> 1. I verified that the pump shaft is turning.
>> 2. I am pretty sure the impeller is turning because the pump housing got
>> very hot very quickly from a brief test engine run with no water moving.
>> 3.  I can find no obstructions to flow from the seacock to the pump.
>>
>> You comment actually makes me wonder if I have been working under some
>> bad assumptions in doing diagnostics.  I had presumed that water would flow
>> rapidly into the raw water pump due to water pressure and the pump would
>> move it along.  But as you pointed out, the pump is quite a bit higher than
>> the entry point, so maybe the pressure is fairly neutral there.  If I open
>> the seacock, with the cover off the pump, should I see water flowing into
>> the pump? Does the pump simply move water that is already there due to
>> pressure flow, or does the pump actually draw the water into the
>> seacock/strainer by sucking it in?  If the latter, then many of my tests
>> have been beside the point and nothing is blocking the flow of water into
>> the boat.  It is more that the pump is not drawing the water in, which gets
>> back to the air leak issues mentioned.
>>
>> 1.  If it is air leaks in the pump seal, I would propose to use a gasket
>> sealant line Form A Gasket in addition to the o ring to seal the cover?
>> Any reason that is a bad idea?
>>
>> 2.  I asked earlier, but is there possibly a pump priming issue?  I have
>> never heard of someone having to do anything to prime there raw water
>> pump.  I did read an online engine thread where people had this problem
>> with a particular engine, but simply revving the engine got the pump primed
>> and pulling water.  Dave
>>
>> David Knecht
>> S/V Aries
>> 1990 C&C 34+
>> New London, CT
>>
>>
>>
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