Richard:
When you spoke with Rob, did you ask if he knows the diameter/thread size of the top of the rudder post for that boat? He used to have a lot of specs on boats (including build files, which are no longer available). In any event, from prior e-mail it sounded like some of the threads in the collar you have are not stripped. Given that you’re on the hard, I suggest blocking the rudder in place (wood blocks and a scissor jack works well for this) and taking the collar to a machine shop as many have advised. The shop will be able to quickly determine the size/thread. Bill guessed 1 5/8" 13 TPI, but taking the collar with you is best. If you’re interested in ordering from McMaster-Carr instead of having one fabricated and do not wish to ask a machine shop for sizing, see if there is an industrial fastener supply (like Fastenal) anywhere nearby. They sell big nuts/bolts and should be able to tell you the size. I would also inspect the top of the internal bushing housing where the quadrant likely hit to ensure no damage was done. Relatively easy fix, but some monkeying around. Good luck! Matt From: Richard Bush <bushma...@aol.com> Sent: Monday, December 11, 2023 3:53 PM To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Cc: virb...@cogeco.ca; Matthew Wolford <wolf...@erie.net> Subject: Re: Stus-List Re: C&C 37 Rudder post assembly To follow Up; I called Rob at South Shore; he was very patient and listened to my tale of woe; he said that there was no "off the shelf" part for this collar and that my best bet would be to have a local machine shop fabricate one; I have looked at the list on McMaster-Carr (sent by Chris Reidinger) and I am not sure if any of those would be a replacement or not, but dsurely something in there should be a place to start...any thought ? Thanks again Richard Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220 (502) 584-7255 On Saturday, December 9, 2023 at 09:53:00 AM EST, Matthew Wolford via CnC-List < <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: I suggest starting there. If Rob doesn’t have one, he may be able to suggest an alternate source. Sent from my iPhone On Dec 9, 2023, at 9:47 AM, Barry McKee via CnC-List < <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Yes they are. Barry McKee C&C 29 “Discovery II” Bronte, ON From: Matthew Wolford via CnC-List [ <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] Sent: 9-Dec-23 8:24 AM To: Richard Bush Cc: Stus-List; Matthew Wolford Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C 37 Rudder post assembly Is South Shore Yachts still in business? Sent from my iPhone On Dec 8, 2023, at 3:00 PM, Richard Bush < <mailto:bushma...@aol.com> bushma...@aol.com> wrote: Hi all; Bill is the winner for long distance diagnosing...; there is a chrome "collar" or "nut' which is threaded and the the top of the rudder post which is also threaded; the collar is tightened down over the rudder post and sits on a delrin "washer" which is about 1/8 inch thick. There are two set screws in the collar to keep it tight n the rudder post. The rudder pivots on this assembly when steering the boat. In my case, these set screws apparently loosened up to allow the collar to loosen which caused play in the rudder post. The result was to strip the threads on the collar allowing the rudder to drop. The fix is to get a new collar, which I hope someone here can help my in identifying; there are no markings or part numbers on the collar. Of course, I have lots of photos. For a quick fix, we were able to invert the collar and use the remaining threads ( about 1/2" to 5/8") to hold the rudder in place. I am confident that this will work until I can identify and order the new collar. So it seems I have been lucky and my situation fits under Mike Hoyt's "good case" scenario rather than the whole assembly failing, which is the "bad case" scenario. I feel a lot better than I did 24 hours ago, but will report back on progress. I would have thought the C&C used the same assembly for all of the rudders regardless of the model of the boat, but maybe not...; If anyone ha any experience or suggestions in locating the "collar, please send them on...Thank you to everyone! Richard Richard N. Bush Law Offices 2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine Louisville, Kentucky 40220 (502) 584-7255 On Thursday, December 7, 2023 at 03:37:58 PM EST, Bill Coleman via CnC-List < <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: I thought there was a nut on the top of the post. If so, it may have come off and it slipped down till the quadrant hit the hull. Obviously you are going to have to go down an look, and all things shall be revealed unto you Bill Coleman Erie PA On Thu, Dec 7, 2023 at 3:15 PM Richard Bush via CnC-List < <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: Hi all; I am in need the collective wisdom of the group for a rudder issue; my boat (1985 C&C 37 CB) has been sitting on a trailer since early September for repairs to the hull, not rudder related; sometime in the past week the rudder has dropped a full two plus inches and no one knows how this happened; the hull has been painted and the painters said they moved the rudder by moving the steering wheel and had no issues; does anyone have any ideas or suggests about what could have occurred? and more importantly, what needs to be done to make the rudder usable? We were hoping to relaunch in the next week or so...I'll be happy to provide more information if anyone has questions...Thanks! Richard 1985 C&C 37 CB; Ohio River... Richard N. 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