You guys are smarter than me, but I got a Progressive policy 15 years ago and 
the premium has dropped every year, I don't have a claim.  No surveys is my 
reason.  $40,000 value and $500 liabilty and the premium is now under $600.  
Not sure if they will ever react to a decent claim.  No idea.
 
BTW, I believe my boat is worth $55K based on the market but might sell for 
$35K.  Go figure.
 
Chuck S

> On 07/21/2023 6:00 PM EDT Neil Andersen via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
>  
>  
> Amen!
>  
> Neil Andersen, W3NEA 
> Rock Hall, MD 21661
> 484-354-8800
> 
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> From: Matt Wolford via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 4:15:59 PM
> To: 'Stus-List' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: johnmcc...@comcast.net <johnmcc...@comcast.net>; wolf...@erie.net 
> <wolf...@erie.net>
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance
>  
> 
> I don’t understand why Boat US first endorsed GEICO, then essentially 
> partnered with them (or are owned by them) given how GEICO treats Boat US 
> members with older boats.
> 
>  
> 
> From: John McCrea via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:59 PM
> To: 'Stus-List' <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: johnmcc...@comcast.net
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Insurance
> 
>  
> 
> Thanks Bill. I had Gieco up until May. They fired all US agents and will only 
> go direct and when I tried they denied. They do not want boats older than 20 
> years now.
> 
>  
> 
> My agent, Gowrie in CT is one of the best and they found me a new similar 
> policy at progressive. For the same $$ as well.
> 
>  
> 
> From: Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
> mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Friday, July 21, 2023 3:49 PM
> To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: Bill Coleman <colt...@gmail.com mailto:colt...@gmail.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Insurance
> 
>  
> 
> Just got this in a newsletter from the local broker, it does a little more 
> Plain 'Splainin on the subject of boat insurance.
> 
>  
> 
> << At the YBAAU, we had an excellent presentation by Bob Peck of Triton 
> Marine Insurance. If you currently own a boat, you almost certainly noticed a 
> sizable increase in your premium this year. That said, marine insurance is 
> not as expensive as most people expect it to be, but the rub is obtaining 
> coverage in the first place. The whole insurance industry took an 
> $118,000,000,000 loss due to Hurricane Ian, and this catastrophic loss had a 
> wide ranging impact across the industry. Four large companies failed, and 
> there are fewer markets for your agent to place your coverage with.
> 
> Four main areas the underwriters look for when a customer is looking for 
> insurance are location of use, age of vessel, owner experience, and the 
> “10-foot rule.”
> 
> * Florida has become a very difficult place to obtain coverage, and so has 
> the Caribbean. If you can get coverage at all you need a storm plan, along 
> with other stipulations.
> * The age of the vessel is also a key criterion, the older the boat the more 
> difficult it is to obtain insurance.
> * Owner experience was always an issue, but until recently it was rarely an 
> obstacle to coverage; it was more a pricing factor. Now brokers need to work 
> with their agents to develop a plan to cover new owners who have little to no 
> prior boating experience. A package containing training is usually required.
> * Finally the “10-foot rule” means the companies normally do not want an 
> owner to move to a larger boat that is more than 10 feet larger that the one 
> they currently own. A customer who currently has a 17-foot center console 
> runabout is unlikely to get coverage for a 40-foot boat for example. Often 
> they are requiring that a captain be aboard for a specified period of time 
> while the owners gain the requisite skill and experience.
> * Other problem insurance risks are liveaboards and houseboats. The larger 
> and more expensive the boat, the more these rules come into play.
> * Here at RCR we have been fortunate, through long-established relationships 
> with marine insurance specialists, to get our customers covered but it has 
> not always been quick and easy. Our suggestion is that if you presently have 
> coverage, don’t think of moving to another carrier to save a few bucks, be 
> satisfied that you have a policy.
> 
> << 
> 
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