I couldn't let this note pass as I believe, as an engineer myself, there is some misunderstanding presented regarding the differences between engineers, architects, and trades and a confusion of terminology. There are of course superstars and incompetents in every professional field. But, generally, the architect (or scientist, take your pick) is the dreamer, the engineer figures out how to make the dream a reality (often with a high degree of creativity -- another misunderstanding about engineers, that they are dull and uncreative...) , and the trades (builders) implement the engineer's instructions. A good, experienced engineer will have spent time in the trades, will be able to build anything she/he designs, and understands the theory, the stresses, the loads, etc. of whatever is built. Engineer's do not just draw lines on paper. That's a drafter, not an engineer. If a thorough evaluation of a structure's condition is desired, and engineer is the best qualified, by far.
Jeff Laman 81 C&C34 "Harmony" Ludington, MI ________________________________ From: CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> Sent: Saturday, March 19, 2022 8:37 PM To: Stus-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>; stephenk...@gmail.com <stephenk...@gmail.com> Cc: CHARLES SCHEAFFER <cscheaf...@comcast.net> Subject: Stus-List Re: Keel wobble First point: No offense to professional naval architects and surveyors, but I'd prefer a good boat builder look at the boat rather than an engineer. Engineers are dreamers and they draw lines on paper. Builders know how to build the engineer's dream and how a boat and keel should behave and how to fix it and what it will cost. Yes, I'd rather have Bruckman's opinion than Cuthbertson. The builder made all those engineer's dreams, all those "lines on paper", into boats and come to life. Second point: Maybe the 25 repair costs more than she's worth. Buy a better and bigger C&C: The market is full of low priced C&C boats. There are many seaworthy C&Cs on the market for sale. Many 27's, 30's, 32's, 34's, 35's, etc. One of my favorites is the 27 MkV which has a decent interior space and can be trailored home for winter storage. Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute 1989 C&C 34R, Annapolis On 03/19/2022 6:22 PM cenelson--- via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: 1+ to recommendations for a serious evaluation of this issue by someone who really knows boats—naval engineer, architect, whatever, unless of course your sailing venue (current and future) is inshore in reasonable temperature waters and perhaps within easy reach of rescue and that you require all on board to wear PFDs all the time, etc. Like most on this list, I am game to tackle most any boat repair, upgrade, modification, etc. However, and often at significant cost, I pay a professional to do jobs that are either beyond my wheelhouse or would require so much prep and research that it would take forever(allowing for amateur mistakes and redoing certain jobs when the first attempt goes ‘awry’ for one reason or another). For any repair or upgrade that might send the boat to the bottom if it went awry (standing rigging replacement, hull deck joint refurbishment, centerboard pennant replacement, stuffing box issues, cutlass bearing replacement, etc.) I use a pro. Of course with a ‘well found’ boat like C&Cs, there is seldom an issue with a design flaw at the seaworthy level—in fact I am confident that my boat design, whatever the details, resulted in a boat that is ‘smarter’ than her skipper and she will only permit me to screw things up but so far before her design saves my a— once again! Most boat issues really aren’t ‘rocket science’ and are amenable to reasonable DIY fixes. IMHO, this keel wobble issue probably requires a nautical ‘rocket scientist’ (naval engineer, architect, etc. to have a look! Charlie Nelson Water Phantom 1985 C&C XL/kcb Sent from the all new AOL app for iOS<https://nam12.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fapps.apple.com%2Fus%2Fapp%2Faol-news-email-weather-video%2Fid646100661&data=04%7C01%7C%7C223eb62e90cd4a364c2b08da0a09fcde%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaaaaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C637833335255896364%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C3000&sdata=AFiDrwu2vN7iKRwP9e6IJg37rI8Gemb4kY20%2FdFXdUo%3D&reserved=0>
