That would be great place to meet  Tom

On Sun, Jan 16, 2022 at 12:24 PM Tom Buscaglia via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Has anyone heard anything regarding this year’s Rendezvous in BC?
>
> Tom Buscaglia
> S/V Alera
> 1990 C&C 37+/40
> Vashon WA
> P 206.463.9200
> C 305.409.3660
>
>
> On Jan 15, 2022, at 6:58 PM, Dave S via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> wrote:
>
> 
> Same.   Have had a voyage to St Pierre and Miquelon on the bucket list
> since I was a kid, thanks to Farley Mowat. I  reread that book last summer,
> and enjoyed it just as much as I did back in the 70s, and probably laughed
> even more.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 21:19, Andrew Burton via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> On side note. I grew up sailing on my dad’s C&C 27 in British Columbia.
>> On one cruise, I read a book by Canadian author Farley Mowat called The
>> Boat Who Wouldn’t Float, about a pair of fellows buying and converting a
>> small fishing schooner in Newfoundland.
>> Mowat talks a lot about the area and I’ve wanted to cruise there since.
>> My club has a cruise in Nfld this summer but my wife thinks we should
>> attend our daughter’s wedding instead of joining them.
>> I highly recommend the book for any sailor with a sense of humour: “Black
>> coffee made with rum as a substitute for water is a drink of considerable
>> authority.”
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> Andrew Burton
>> 26 Beacon Hill
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/26+Beacon+Hill+Newport,+RI+USA++02840?entry=gmail&source=g>
>> Newport, RI
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>>
>> USA
>> <https://www.google.com/maps/search/26+Beacon+Hill+Newport,+RI+USA++02840?entry=gmail&source=g>
>>  02840
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>>
>> http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
>> +401 965-5260
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>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 21:06, Ken Heaton via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> 
>> I don't think it is easy to stay in the US for more than 12 month
>> either.  But you only have to leave and go to another country for 15 days,
>> then you can return and start the clock over again.  I'm not sure what the
>> similar rule is for Canada.
>>
>> Ken H.
>>
>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 21:44, Dave S <syerd...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Andy - you might need to make a short trip to st Pierre and Miquelon.
>>>
>>> Eurozone VAT is similar I believe, non-paid boats need to leave briefly
>>> and return to reset the clock (or pay) and paid boats can’t be gone too
>>> long or they lose their paid status.
>>>   I think I see a retirement gig in the med in my future!
>>> Dave
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On Jan 15, 2022, at 7:28 PM, Robert Abbott via CnC-List <
>>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>  Ken,
>>>
>>> Thank you all of this...everything one could want on the subject matter.
>>>
>>> Robert Abbott
>>> AZURA
>>> C&C 32 - #277
>>> Halifax, N.S.
>>>
>>> On 2022-01-15 4:59 p.m., Ken Heaton wrote:
>>>
>>> Further to this, it appears some of Henry's American clients had kept
>>> their boats in Canada continuously for up to 18 years without ever actually
>>> officially importing them, so never paid import duties:
>>> https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/nova-scotia/tariff-for-non-canadian-boat-owners-threatens-yard-1.1322571
>>>
>>> In the long run, the rules were not changed, and this didn't seem to
>>> have any lasting effect on Henry's business.  The Cape Breton Boat Yard in
>>> Baddeck, Nova Scotia is still in business.
>>>
>>> Ken H..
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, 15 Jan 2022 at 16:53, Ken Heaton <kenhea...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> The "short amount of time" Andrew refers to is one full year (12
>>>> months).  The ``newish" law Andrew referred to has been on the books for at
>>>> least 20 years ( I think since the fall of 1998) but has been spottily
>>>> enforced. In theory, US boats are not supposed to overwinter (stay longer
>>>> than 12 months) in Canada without being legally imported and paying duty.
>>>> But there’s an exception. If a boat needs repairs, it may stay—and the
>>>> repairs, maintenance and storage of such yachts has been the core business
>>>> of Henry Fuller of the Cape Breton Boat Yard in Baddeck, Nova Scotia. And
>>>> though the necessary “repairs” may not have been very extensive, customs
>>>> officers have never been very exacting about the matter.
>>>>
>>>> For many years quite a number of American boats spent years on end in
>>>> Canada without being officially imported, using this loophole that allowed
>>>> the boats to remain here if "major overhaul" and other large shipyard
>>>> related jobs were being done to them.  The intention of this rule was to
>>>> allow shipyards to bid on large projects without having to worry about
>>>> import duties if the job stretched out beyond 12 months. Legitimate large
>>>> repairs can be extended beyond 12 months, up to as long as four years (48
>>>> months) if required, and permission for the extension(s) is granted.
>>>>
>>>> This loophole was being abused as many of these boats were really just
>>>> having light seasonal maintenance done.  Henry Fuller made a public issue
>>>> of it back in the fall of 2013 and so drew the attention of the government
>>>> agency tasked with enforcing the law, forcing their hand so enforcement
>>>> increased as a result.
>>>>
>>>> Some coverage of Henry's complaints are here:
>>>> https://www.oceannavigator.com/bad-news-from-baddeck/
>>>>
>>>> Here is another view:
>>>> https://contrarian.ca/2013/09/06/how-the-feds-are-killing-a-77-year-old-cape-breton-business/
>>>>
>>>> Here is a link to the actual rules and information for travellers (note
>>>> the wording on that page has not needed to been changed since 2014):
>>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/menu-eng.html
>>>>
>>>> Information about the length of time permitted for repairs are here:
>>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voyage/fv-be/importation-eng.html
>>>>
>>>> The actual letter of the law here:
>>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-1-1-eng.html
>>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d2/d2-2-3-eng.html
>>>> https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publications/dm-md/d8/d8-1-1-eng.html
>>>>
>>>> Ken H.
>>>>
>>>>
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