We Laser sailors got to steer IOR boats downwind a lot due to the Laser’s propensity for getting the helmsman a swim if he made a mistake sailing downwind. You either got to be a good helmsman or a good swimmer! Andy
Andrew Burton 26 Beacon Hill Newport, RI USA 02840 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ +401 965-5260 > On Dec 12, 2021, at 11:34, Bill Coleman via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > wrote: > > > Don't kid yourself-even with the longer rudder they are still amazing > broachers! We've had several, including one spectacular one+ > > Bill Coleman > Entrada, Erie PA > >> On Sun, Dec 12, 2021, 1:19 AM Martin DeYoung via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> More often than not both bloopers and staysails seemed to add a quarter knot >> going up and a quarter knot coming down. >> >> >> >> One of the best uses of a blooper I experienced early on was during the >> windy 1977 Transpac. The C&C 39 I was on still had the original short, low >> aspect ratio rudder and small diameter steering wheel. >> >> In typical trade wind conditions, sailing as close to DDW as possible, the >> blooper helped balance the sail plan pulling the bow back down when the boat >> was thinking of taking a hard swing to weather. >> >> >> >> Those short C&C 39 rudders embarrassed more that a few helmsmen. Here in >> the PNW, back in the late 70’s there was 4 or 5 C&C 39’s actively racing >> and competitive. A local sailmaker and rockstar helmsman named Scott Rohrer >> (an acquaintance of mine still) was at the helm of a 39 a few boat lengths >> behind us. We all had spinnakers up but the conditions were deteriorating. >> As the 39 Scott was driving began performing the death roll, we could hear >> Scott yelling “I got it, I got it..” just before his boat spun hard to >> weather in a full broach. >> >> >> >> For a long time we called Scott “Rodeo Rohrer” as in “going to the rodeo for >> a roundup”. PNW C&C 39s with the short rudder got a reputation as “broach >> coaches” until they received the rudder upgrade. >> >> >> >> Martin DeYoung >> >> Calypso >> >> 1971 C&C 43 >> >> Port Ludlow/Seattle >> >> >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows >> >> >> >> From: Fred Hazzard via CnC-List >> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2021 4:52 PM >> To: Stus-List >> Cc: Fred Hazzard >> Subject: Stus-List Re: C&C to race - cold weather discussion topic >> >> >> >> That all sounds good except the blooper. >> >> My recollection of using the blooper on my one tonner was, we went a >> quarter knot faster when we put it up and quarter knot faster when we took >> it down. The best thing about it was that it kept the crew ingaged trying to >> keep it full and out of the water. >> >> 😁 >> >> Fred Hazzard >> >> S/V Fury >> >> C&C 44 >> >> Portland Or >> >> >> >> >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> >> >> >> >> On Dec 11, 2021, at 3:43 PM, Ronald B. Frerker via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> Martin, do I remember correctly; wasn't your boat originally Esta Es from >> Lake Michigan? >> >> Ron >> >> Wild Cheri >> >> C&C 30-1 >> >> STL >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tuesday, November 30, 2021, 01:51:01 AM CST, Martin DeYoung via CnC-List >> <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >> >> I would go back to a C&C 39, tall rig, deep rudder and the light weight >> Atomic 4 aux engine. Prep it to be fully optimized for its PNW PHRF rating >> but include a “penalty pole” and blooper for those long DDW legs. I would >> also want the upgraded winch package that included the Barient titanium drum >> 3 speed primary winches. >> >> Back in the late 70’s the 39s did well in the typical light air races that >> were long enough to experience several changes of current that could keep a >> crew of 6 out for 24 to 36 hours in relative comfort. If the wind came up it >> could still go upwind without the whole neighborhood camped out on the rail. >> >> Martin DeYoung >> Calypso >> 1971 C&C 43 >> Port Ludlow/Seattle >> >> >> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with >> the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - >> Stu >> >> >> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with >> the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - >> Stu > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu
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