Persistence, Mike.  Persistence.

 

From: Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
Sent: Friday, September 24, 2021 8:34 AM
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Cc: Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com>
Subject: Stus-List Re: cng cylinders

 

There are no CNG filling stations for cars in our region.  The nearest is in 
the Montreal area which is over 1000KM from Halifax.  

 

We do have a testing station with our gas company that pump capable of filling 
our canisters.  My understanding is that it takes nearly 3 hours to fill one …  
They have been kind enough to accommodate me with my one tank.

 

Our main issue is that we need to have these tanks DOT 3 certified in Canada 
every 3 years.  The US certification is not accepted here.  This means finding 
a company willing to perform hydrostatic testing and certification of the tanks 
every five years.  That has proven difficult but we have located one that is 
only 3 hours from Halifax.  Most Dive shops and Fire and Safety shops do not 
wish to work with CNG cylinders and are also unfamiliar with them.  

 

Finding some place to buy them new is even more difficult.  Corp Brothers was 
the eastern supplier but they have been purchased I believe by Air Liquide and 
there was a West Coast company as well but it is long gone.  Any Google 
searches of CNG cylinders turns up large industrial sizes or the ones for using 
on cars and trucks.  These are much larger than the ones used for marine stove 
fuel, very expensive and totally unsuitable.

 

This brings me back to the other option.  Replacing with a propane oven.  That 
would mean a very expensive conversion to the existing oven if even possible at 
this time or discarding a very well working appliance and purchasing a new one 
(not where I really want to spend boat bucks).  It also means finding a storage 
location for a propane tank on a boat that does not have a propane locker.  
That would be a huge job or would involve the ugly solution of hanging a 
propane tank off the back of the boat.

 

So we have come full circle back to sourcing new CNG cylinders, finding a shop 
to perform hydrostatic testing and certification every five years and finding a 
re-filling station.  We are almost there!

 

An awful lot of bother to cook the odd breakfast and use the oven once a year

 

Thanks for reading

 

Mike Hoyt

Persistence

Halifax, NS

1987 Frers 33

www.hoytsailing.com <http://www.hoytsailing.com> 

 

 

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I fill mine at the local CNG station that fills cars for about $2.50 or so.

My insurance company, Progressive, never asked about CNG or anything else.

 

 

Joe Della Barba

Coquina C&C 35 MK I

Kent Island MD USA

 

 

 

 

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Subject: Stus-List Re: cng cylinders

 

Try a welding supply shop that also sells welding gasses. 

 

 

 

Doug Mountjoy 

sv Rebecca Leah 

C & C Landfall 39

Port Orchard Yacht Club 

Port Orchard, WA

 

 

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Date: 9/23/21 12:39 (GMT-08:00) 

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Cc: Richard Bush <bushma...@aol.com <mailto:bushma...@aol.com> > 

Subject: Stus-List Re: cng cylinders 

 

This doesn't answer the question, but my insurance company (Geico through Boat 
US) made me remove the CNG cylinder from the boat stating it was a fire risk; I 
had to send proof that the tank was off of the boat before they would grant the 
insurance; the reason given was that it was mounted in the locker and not a 
separate enclosed space; since we rarely cook on board, that was the path of 
least resistance for me...anyone else experienced this? thanks

 

Richard

s/v Bushmark4: 1985 C&C 37 CB: Ohio River, Mile 584.4

 

Richard N. Bush Law Offices 

2950 Breckenridge Lane, Suite Nine 

Louisville, Kentucky 40220-1462 

502-584-7255

 

 

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Sent: Thu, Sep 23, 2021 3:25 pm
Subject: Stus-List Re: cng cylinders

I seem to recall that CNG cylinders are SCUBA cylinders with a reverse thread 
so that they can't be mistaken for cylinders with O2 in them. When a tank is 
empty, it is exchanged for a full tank. Another choice is to have the local gas 
company fill your tank for you. You might check with a propane distributor, or 
with your local gas company.

 

Alan Bergen

35 Mk III Thirsty

Rose City YC

Portland, OR

 

 

 

On Thu, Sep 23, 2021 at 12:15 PM Hoyt, Mike via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com 
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There are several people at our marina that have CNG for cooking.  We are 
wondering if anyone on list has a source for new CNG cylinders?

 

Thanks

 

Mike

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