James here in Juneau….I’m interested in this conversation as well…my deck 
repair may take me to the end of summer…if it does, I’m taking the mast down 
and re-rigging as well…so you’re proposing Dyform….good converation, thanks. 




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James Bibb
NorthWind Architects LLC
126 Seward St. Street
Juneau, Alaska. 99801

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> On Jul 11, 2021, at 4:21 PM, Rick Brass via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
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> That’s Dyform wire. And a few years ago (circa 2012?) I rerigged my 38 mkll 
> using it. A few thousandths bigger diameter than the #10 rod, a few hundred 
> pounds higher break strength, and about 100 pounds more weight aloft. But the 
> complete rerig was about the same as the cost to get the rod removed, sent to 
> Navtec for evaluation, and returned to NC if no replacing or reheading was 
> needed. I was a happy camper with more than a few buck left in my pocket.
>  
> Rick Brass
> Washington, NC
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> From: MICHAEL BRANNON via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] 
> Sent: Saturday, July 10, 2021 3:21 PM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
> Cc: MICHAEL BRANNON <ff1...@aol.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Re: Standing rigging replacement
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> You may want to consider getting an estimate using deform or even 1X19 wire 
> vs rod and see what that comes to.    Just a thought.   
>  
> Mike 
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> Mike Brannon
> Virginia Lee 93295
> 1978 C&C 36 CB
> Virginia Beach, VA
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> On Jun 23, 2021, at 8:23 PM, Korbey Hunt via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> 
> wrote:
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> Seems a worthy investment.
> 
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> From: Charlie Nelson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2021 6:38:32 AM
> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> Cc: cenel...@aol.com <cenel...@aol.com>
> Subject: Stus-List Standing rigging replacement
>  
> Hey everyone--especially those on this list whose boats are approaching 'old 
> age!'
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> My 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb is now 26 years old and has been in brackish water for 
> her entire life--which has been either at the dock or club racing in the NC 
> sounds where the air is mostly light and the heat is often oppressive. I am 
> faced with a decision on what, if anything, to do about her standing rigging, 
> which is all original rod except for the forestay which was replaced with 
> wire when I snapped the rod during a racing adventure--the headsail was 
> furled at the time so the rig did not come down!
>  
> A local, seemingly knowledgeable rigger, has recommend that all the standing 
> rigging be replaced after he did a rig inspection a few weeks ago. (He 
> aborted an attempt at tuning the rig when he realized that the threads on one 
> of the turn-buckles were disintegrating during his adjustments.) The cost to 
> replace with rod per his estimate is ~ $7500 plus some yard fees to un-step 
> and re-step the mast so I am looking at about $8k for the job, without 
> replacing some mast hardware (Tides track, steaming light, radio cable and 
> antenna, etc.) while the mast is down.
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> I realize that after 26 years, the rigging might need attention, that is why 
> I had him do the inspection. OTOH, I also understand that it is in his own 
> self-interest to replace the rig. The rod will be done in Rhode Island but he 
> will be doing all the other stuff. The old joke '...if the only tool you have 
> is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail..' comes to mind. I am also a 
> firm believer in the saying '....tools not rules...' so I am reluctant to 
> just replace something because of a 'recommendation' based on what often is 
> more tradition than fact.
>  
> Since many on the list have boats even older than mine, I am curious what the 
> list has to say about rod rigging replacement versus age, intended use and 
> cruising/racing waters involved. Of course I'd prefer the rig not come down 
> around my ears, even in the NC sounds, but I have no plans to take her 
> off-shore, except for possible short hops to deliver her to racing venues 
> (CRW). OTOH, the boat bucks involved are probably about 20% of the boat's 
> current value which I will unlikely recover when I sell her, new rigging or 
> not.
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> Thanks in advance,
>  
> Charlie Nelson
> Water Phantom
> 1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb
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> Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with 
> the costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use 
> PayPal to send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the 
costs involved.  If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to 
send contribution --   https://www.paypal.me/stumurray  Thanks - Stu

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