+1 on all comments on how fly it safely—especially fully hoisting it!
On one of my earlier kite disasters, we failed to notice that our hoist was 6-8 
feet short of full hoist with my masthead full shouldered kite during a 
practice run dead downwind.
The wind was up, of course, and within 15-20 seconds our bowman scooted rapidly 
back to the cockpit on our run claiming the bow was going under. When the water 
was on deck about 1/2 way to the mast on both port and starboard, someone 
noticed the kite was not fully up.
With the fear of sinking rearing its head, a crew sprang to the kite halyard 
and pulled as if his life depended on it to get the kite fully hoisted.
Thereafter of course , Water Phantom corrected its bow down attitude and 
returned to a surface ship from its brief but scary replication of a submarine 
beginning to dive.
Moral of the story—the horizontal force vector on a kite can and likely will 
point down if not fully hoisted—never mind the other force vectors possibly 
whipping it side to side, etc. If this down vector overwhelms those or others 
from the main sail, keel, rudder, etc. she has no other option but to head 
‘below’ and head below she will!
Charlie NelsonWater Phantom1995 C&C 36 XL/kcb





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On Tuesday, April 6, 2021, 4:32 PM, Dennis C. via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

A heavy weather chute should have narrow shoulders.  It should be fully 
hoisted.  Failure to fully hoist in heavy weather will increase the potential 
for oscillation and loss of control.
While we're on heavy weather spin flying, on Touche', we never ever let the 
center seam cross to the weather side of the forestay.  That is, we prefer a 
slightly reaching trim as opposed to a dead downwind trim.  Trimming the 
chute's center seam to weather of the forestay increases the chances of 
oscillation and ultimately a death roll.  
I'd rather broach than do a death roll!
To answer the question, talk to your sailmaker.  This chute sounds a wee bit 
short to me.
  -- 
Dennis C.Touche' 35-1 #83Mandeville, LA
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 11:22 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Bruno,
Sounds about right.  Just don't hoist the chute to the masthead.
Joel
On Tue, Apr 6, 2021 at 10:42 AM Bruno Lachance via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

Question for the spinnaker gurus of the group:
The light/medium sym spinfor my 33-2 has a luff/leech lenght of 44 ft and a 
foot of 23.3 ft. This is a sail designed for this boat
I'm looking at a used spin that seems to be a heavier cloth, that would be used 
as a S-3. The dimensions are Luff: 40.8 / foot: 21.5 





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