Our single fleet club is organized as a social racing club to distinguish us 
from the two brick and mortar clubs in our bay.  Our tag line is “Serious Fun, 
not Serious Racing”.  We generally get about 45 boats ranging from true racing 
machines to 22 foot cruisers using volunteer committee boats from the fleet.

Some of the things we do to keep things fun include the sliding PRHF as Bob 
describes.  In our version, the 1st, 2nd and 3rd place boats in each division 
lose 9, 6 and 3 points off their PHRF for the next week.  4th place stays the 
same and the rest of the fleet that raced gets an additional 2 points added.  
This keeps anybody from running away with a division, believe me!  We also run 
a mix of spinnaker and Jib/Main only races with a time penalty for using a 
spinnaker to keep things even.  This keeps the more advanced boats interested, 
but also maintains some balance with boats that either don’t have a spinnaker 
or don’t want to fly it.  Another provision is a guest skipper bonus, which is 
a half point deduction on the series score for any skipper that hops on a 
different boat for a race.  This has been great for new members that need a 
little mentoring.

The club is very protective of our reputation for welcoming new racers and we 
have actually asked overly aggressive boats to find another fleet at times.  We 
also run classes on racing, rules, committee boat duties and even boat 
maintenance to help our members stay in the sport.  Our website at 
www.mastracing.org<http://www.mastracing.org> also has a stripped down, common 
sense version of the rules available that one of our members wrote a while ago. 
 That is required reading for our membership and might be something you could 
use for those starting out.

In terms of why we race, when we started a big reason was to nudge us to use 
the boat at least once a week and stretch our comfort zone by going out in 
conditions that would not necessarily be attractive for a pleasure sail.  It’s 
evolved into a very social thing now, as over the years we have maneuvered our 
slip location to be near our fellow racers.  Pre-COVID, this resulted in some 
pretty impressive shared meals on the dock after the race and a general party 
atmosphere.  We race on Friday nights, which is also a factor in this.  On the 
whole, I think there is room for a lower stress racing series to try and lure 
more people into the sport and I would urge interested clubs to give it a try.

Jim Reinardy
C&C 30-2 “Firewater”
Milwaukee, WI

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Sent: Saturday, January 30, 2021 3:29:33 PM
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Subject: Stus-List Re: Racing fleets and getting sailors to participate

Sort of funny how all the egos go for the line i did it many times take him up 
no room to go up no protests nobody wants to go to protests. Fleet racing 
accidents happen. Then after the aggressive start line close packed maneuvers 
things spread out, crew loses focus and then another chance for collision at 
the first mark and so on and on and then maybe a bewildered and disgruntled 
crew afterwards talking about what went wrong. I am a dedicated cruiser now but 
i still love watching Americas Cup started following way back when Stars and 
Stripes and Dennis Connor was in the thick a lot of changes and new 
developments since then thats what i like and the presentations of races is so 
good nowadays its very exiting nothing at all like watching the grass grow or 
the paint dry and so very technical and experimental. Next races Prada Cup 
Final Luna Rossa vs Brittania feb 13-22

On Sat, Jan 30, 2021 at 4:26 PM Bob Mann via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
Video tape all starts from the committee boat and use these for review.  Always 
surprising how far from the line boats are at the start, especially in the 
middle of the line.

Our local group (multiple clubs in one organization) implemented golf-style 
handicapping last year. We call it Delta class.  Based on your result from last 
week your rating may change.  Unfortunately, I don't have more details on what 
they did but can put you in touch with someone.

Bob Mann
Detroit - DRYA
On 01/30/2021 9:58 AM David Knecht via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:


I noticed looking at Bill’s link about his spinnaker that his club has three 
racing fleets:  Spinnaker, Family JAM and Jib & Main .  I don’t know what those 
represent, but am curious.
I am in charge of racing for our club this year (for the first time) and one of 
the things I am looking into is whether we can increase participation in racing 
by our members.  One idea I am exploring is having a “green fleet” for those 
new to raicng to get them invoved in a low stress format (primarily start 
timing when you get to the line).  We would also have a pre and post race 
skippers meeting/discussion to talk about the race, rules, etc..
This group seems like a good place to get ideas as to what other clubs do in 
terms of racing fleets and encouraging participation from those who are not 
traditionally participating.  Has anything in particular worked well for your 
club?  Thanks- Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT
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