Hi David knecht I went on messenger look up magic antifoul His cell 843 696-6404 He gave me magic prop to try I haven’t put it on yet Sv Delos tried it it seem it came off pretty quick For the other I used a wood scraper to take off the ablative paint Much faster than sanding, just be careful not to make holes And finish with 80 grit with round sander And Fiberglass wash
On Sat, Jan 9, 2021 at 11:16 AM John and Maryann Read via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Recently saw an ad for a new Petit paint “Odyssey Triton”. Contains, > copper, econea and zinc. Ablative multi year. Pricey but supposedly the > best thing since sliced bread. > > No personal experience > > > > John and Maryann > > Legacy III > > 1982 C&C 34 > > Noank, CT > > > > > > > > *From:* David Knecht via CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com] > *Sent:* Saturday, January 09, 2021 9:32 AM > *To:* CnC CnC discussion list > *Cc:* David Knecht > *Subject:* Stus-List Re: Bottom painting question > > > > Magic antifouling does not appear to be available for sale yet due to lack > of EPA approval. How did you get it? Have you tried Magic Prop as well? > Dave > > > > S/V Aries > > 1990 C&C 34+ > > New London, CT > > > > > On Jan 8, 2021, at 10:59 PM, Joel Delamirande via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > > > > > Me too it was first time taking off ablative paint > > It sucks but it looks nice > > I put magic anti fouling the application was easy, two people is better to > get a smooth finish > > Sv Delos and sailing zatara tryed it they say it an amazing product and > gained half a knot on boat speed > > For a 30 foot cost me 800$ USA > > On Fri, Jan 8, 2021 at 10:40 PM cenelson via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Yes—at least some do. OTOH I did that once, took about 4+ 8 hr days with a > sander above my head and all the protective breathing gear on. > > > > Swore then that I would “...nevahh...” > > Attempt that again. Same feeling after my first and last water skiing > success—once was enough!! > > > Sent from the all new Aol app for iOS > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661> > > On Friday, January 8, 2021, 8:48 PM, Hoyt, Mike <mike.h...@impgroup.com> > wrote: > > does your yard allow owners to sand their own bottoms? > > > ------------------------------ > > *From:* cenelson via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > *Sent:* January 8, 2021 9:26 PM > *To:* C&C List > *Cc:* cenelson > *Subject:* Stus-List Bottom painting question > > > > My 1995 C&C 36XL/Kcb is used mainly for local club racing with occasional > forays to CRW. I think her PHRF of 120 is reasonable and at CRW she > finished in the middle of her PHRF class in spinnaker racing boat for boat > with a similarly rated J-30 whose rating was the same because of a penalty > for an oversized pole. > > > > About 2 years ago, I had to strip the bottom to the gel coat since the > bottom paint build-up was excessive. Two coats of barrier coat were applied > and then Petite Black Widow was improperly sprayed on by my yard—they > admitted they were unfamiliar with how much it needed diluted to be applied > (afterward), when the barnacles showed up much sooner than expected, likely > a result of too thin a layer of this paint. > > > > I had them repaint the bottom with Petite Vivid, with which they were > familiar, and they rolled it on with a short nap roller to avoid the extra > expense of tenting, etc. for a spray paint application of the same > paint—which they had done in the past. > > > > I am contemplating going back to a smoother bottom and several local yards > have agreed that the solution is to rough up the current hard ablative > Petite Vivid, apply/roll 2 more coats of the same and then manually > sand/burnish the bottom by sanding these coats smooth, basically > sacrificing some of the just applied paint to ensure a smoother bottom. > > > > I get it, especially since 2 independent yards proposed this, as more > practical/less expensive than my initial thoughts of sanding the current > paint down and then spraying several coats of Vivid. > > > > This work by the yard will cost ~$4-5000. > > > > My question for the list, especially the racers, is how do I maintain this > sanded bottom when I must reapply another coat or 2 of bottom paint next > year? Must I repeat the process (roll on 2 coats and sand smooth) for > another $5000? If so, I am not sure if I should proceed. A ~$2000 per year > bottom refresh is tolerable—a $5000 per year is NOT. > > > > So how do the racing listers keep your boat bottom in ‘racing’ condition > year to year? > > > > Must I ‘bite the bullet’ at $5000 each year or is there an alternative > that is less expensive and thus more reasonable? I will not do it myself—to > much work not to mention the hazard of the paint dust/vapors/etc. > > > > Charlie Nelson > > 1995 C&C 36XL/kcb > > Water Phantom ex > > > > Sent from the all new Aol app for iOS > <https://apps.apple.com/us/app/aol-news-email-weather-video/id646100661> > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu > > -- > > Joel Delamirande > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > > *www.jdroofing.ca <http://www.jdroofing.ca/>* > > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu > > > Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with > the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks > - Stu -- Joel Delamirande *www.jdroofing.ca <http://www.jdroofing.ca>*
Thanks to all of the subscribers that contributed to the list to help with the costs involved. If you want to show your support to the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray Thanks - Stu