Martin:
I believe the 42 Custom is a different (albeit similar)
design. My understanding is that six were made. One of the owners has been
keeping track of the boats and reached out to me a few years ago. As I
recall one or two are in bad shape, but the rest are going strong. The boat
is more or less a sistership to the first Baltic 42. Rob Mazza on this list
recently informed me that the design was a development of a 1975 Canada Cup
challenger, Marauder (which he sailed on).
I raced against my boat as a kid. It ruled Lake Erie for
about a year, then was promptly out-designed. Had someone like me not
purchased it, it probably would be getting ready for the landfill. The
hulls balsa core was wet or rotted throughout the boat. Weve either
replaced all the bad core where access allowed; or drilled a gazillion holes
on the inside skin, dried out the core with heat lamps, and filled with West
System. Last year we did the area under the fuel and water tanks (main
salon, starboard side), which I believe and hope is the last of it. I now
plan to turn to other issues, like the worn interior appearance and those
pesky limber holes.
The boat does okay uphill and surprisingly well in
relatively light air off the wind. It does not point as well as I believe
it should. Probably a problem with the driver.
I enjoyed your note about the true value of a blooper
(keeping these darn boats going straight in heavy air downwind). I havent
had the pleasure of trying it with my new blooper. I have had the pleasure
of experiencing the relative lack of stability in Lake Eries quartering
seas. I commented recently about Garmins wind transducer replacement
program. Guess how I learned about it?
We should compare notes sometime. It sounds like have a lot
of the same issues.
Matt
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Matt,
I have noticed the same limber hole issue in Calypsos bilge and dark hidden
spaces. I have been able to improve the function in many place but not all.
Fortunately I did not need to remove any prior owners work as it appeared
original. When we were installing the reinforcing I beams we made an extra
effort to shape the bilge to promote water flow to the bilge well.
One of the last significant bulkhead repair project I need to complete was
caused by one of the built in, sealed nooks under Calypsos nav station.
I discovered the sealed space when exploring how far the bulkhead rot
extended. I suspect the water in there was part of the rot source. The way
Bruckmanns crew finished out the companion way slider and spray hood
eventually allowed water to drip down into this space and the rotted
bulkhead area.
I rebuilt the failed structure under the slider with G10 epoxy board (no rot
concerns) and carefully shaped the space to allow the inevitable water
collecting there to flow out onto the deck. Of course when I had that part
of the boat torn apart I reinforced areas of high load under the traveler to
be sure the loads were still shared by the adjoining structures.
Is your 42 an original design or a iteration from the 43? I heard about one
of the later 43s (maybe Night Train?) that was built with the keel shape
modernized. I also have heard that the 43 Opus in Vancouver BC is a
modernized version of the older 43 design. I expect the newer keel increases
the performance sailing to weather and in lighter conditions. Back in 1974
Calypso (as Arieto) was modified to rate better under IOR and added a new,
deeper rudder. The modification, bobbing the stern, was designed by C&C. I
have a copy of the drawings used in case I have the time and budget to
restore the stern to its original shape.
Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle/Port Ludlow
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Martin:
I can attest that the practices were not updated by 1973.
My boat has all kinds of nooks and crannies where water accumulates. One of
my pet peeves is that often the limber holes were not placed at the bottom
of the area being drained, but instead a half inch or so above (such as just
forward of the mast). As a result, the half inch or so of water doesnt
drain. I prior owner used Bondo to address this. However, I discovered
that water works its way in under the Bondo. I plan to remove all the Bondo
and level the various areas with West System. Another job on my long list.
Matt
C&C 42 Custom (1976 Bruckmann built)
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Joel,
I expect we experienced similar paths in restoring/repairing C&C designs
built by Bruckmann. The stick built interiors give both easy access for
water migration and for the repair work water migration makes necessary. I
have a declared value marine insurance policy to cover liability and some
hull losses but fully expect a tussle if I were to file a total loss claim.
One of the key failure modes we experienced was caused by water gaining
access to the channels created when the Bruckmann build team bonded
bulkheads to the hull. We found water** that pooled in the bilge forward of
the mast migrated across the bottom of several bulkheads and, over 40 years,
rotted the ¾ thick plywood up to 18 from the hull contact.
Did you find any evidence of water migration through the bulkhead channels
of the embedded 12v wires run through the deck balsa core? Maybe Bruckmanns
build practices were updated by 1973.
Martin DeYoung
Calypso
1971 C&C 43
Seattle/Port Ludlow
**Calypsos excess water forward of the bilge was cause by hull laminate
fractures likely caused by years of hard competition and excess use of
hydraulic backstay/babystay adjustors. When we first launched Calypso in
Seattle (after trucking out from Chicago) water seeped into the bilge space
forward of the mast step. We re-hauled the hull (the mast was out for
painting and new rigging) and started diagnosing the failure by chiseling
out the orange polyester bog filler and grinding off bottom paint. The
micro fractures became appearant most easily inside. We re-laminated the
hull in that area with epoxy, built up the well forward of the mast step,
and re-faired the hull.
Using as built drawings from C&C (from the museum I bought all available for
43s and some for the first few 60s) during Calypsos current restoration we
discovered 43 and 60 hulls after #1 and #2 were retrofitted or built with
extra reinforcement in this area. For Calypso we manufactured I beams
from G10 epoxy board and wood then glassed them to the hull from next to the
mast step forward past the babystays interior anchor point.
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Wow that amazing
It basically what I did to C&C 30 1973
People are amazed at the transformation
The hard part is to get the insurance to see it value comparing to market
value if you can find some
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