I have to agree with Neil

Persistence came with a one year old Garmin GPSMAP 740 chart plotter at helm.  
We replaced the nav station Furuno GPS with a  RAymarine chart plotter as well. 
 Both my wife and I prefer the interface of the Garmin over the RAymarine.  One 
was purchased 2013 and the other 2014 and both are touch screen.  We like both 
but prefer the Garmin

For the wind/depth/speed we have always liked Raymarine.  Had ST40s, then next 
boat ST60 series and now i50/i60.  These are easy to use and work well.  I 
really preferred the simplicity of the ST60 over the need to buy hubs and 
networking items for the i50/60 instruments though.  Boat came with B&G 
wind/speed/depth.  The multifunction repeater functionality was nice but the 
system was complicated.  The displays were fading and replacement displays 
difficult (impossible) to get.  The newer displays were not compatible with the 
older unites as well.  When we removed the B&G system there was a LOT of wiring 
and a server box of some sort.  It would be difficult to re-install that set 
without having someone very knowledgeable on hand

My favourites were the ST50/ST60 series.  Easy to use, dead simple to install 
and very nearly bulletproof

Mike Hoyt
Persistence
Halifax, NS
www.hoytsailing.com



From: schiller <schil...@bloomingdalecom.net>
Sent: October 30, 2020 11:29 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Subject: Stus-List Re: Boat instrument

Joel,

Yes.  Our C&C 35-3 has ST50 Tridata and ST60 Wind along with an S1/ST6001 
Autopilot.  We have Seatalk ng/Seatalk/NEMA 2000 devices all talking together.  
I plan on adding a Milltech Marine AIS Transponder into the system next year.

Having played with both Raymarine and Garmin chartplotters, I still prefer the 
Garmin as long as it talks to all of the rest of the system.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
On 10/30/2020 8:09 PM, Joel Delamirande wrote:
So it raymarine for you

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020 at 8:05 PM schiller 
<schil...@bloomingdalecom.net<mailto:schil...@bloomingdalecom.net>> wrote:
Bill,

Yes.  After our experience, Glenn contacted Raymarine to inquire about a "night 
mode" and their response was "well, just turn the brightness down".  I agree 
that I wouldn't put Garmin wind/Depth/Speed on the boat due to their hard 
proprietary stance.  I do like my Garmin GPS devices and I find that it 
interfaces just fine with my Seatalk ng system.

It is pretty embarrassing to do circles in front of a freighter.  He was still 
probably close to a mile away and Glenn's AIS was active but I'm sure that the 
freighter pilot was thinking WTF?


Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
On 10/30/2020 7:41 PM, Bill Coleman wrote:
You just hit on one of my pet peeves .Garmin does seem to have this in a lot of 
their instruments, but Raymarine, B&G, and Simrad are in the dark . Literally. 
What drives me crazy, is that for a few bucks, they could incorporate night 
mode, or light intensity adjustment. One of the worst aspects, is that when you 
turn your display down in the evening, and turn it on the next morning, you 
can't see a darn thing. It is so avoidable.
Bill Coleman
Erie

On Fri, Oct 30, 2020, 7:30 PM schiller 
<schil...@bloomingdalecom.net<mailto:schil...@bloomingdalecom.net>> wrote:
I have always been partial to Garmin chartplotters and Raymarine 
wind/speed/depth.  We have them all talking through the Seatalk ng network.

We had an interesting experience with Glenn Gambel's C&C 36 going over to 
Milwaukee for the Queens cup in 2018 with his new Raymarine chartplotter.  As 
it got dark no one noticed how high the intensity of the display was until we 
came up on an ore freighter.  Glenn was at the helm and as he tried to go heads 
out to locate the freighter he was night blinded by the display and became 
disoriented enough that we made two complete circles in front of this 
freighter.  Glenn finally asked for someone else to take the helm and I took 
over and just straightened out the wheel until we regained some awareness of 
where we were.  It seemed the display went from manageable to blinding almost 
instantaneously.  My Garmin's have always gone into night mode at sundown and 
now I appreciate that.  We did finally get the intensity down to non-blinding.  
The freighter shined us with his spot just to see if we were having issues.  He 
had to be wondering what the hell we were doing.

Neil Schiller
1983 C&C 35-3, #028, "Grace"
Whitehall, Michigan
WLYC
On 10/30/2020 10:42 AM, David Knecht wrote:
I have had B&G and Raymarine chart plotters and they both have advantages and 
disadvantages, so no clear winner for me.  I found the Raymarine a bit more 
intuitive, but you get used to the idiosynchracies of either types as you use 
them.  The one thing I have found really important is if you get a touchscreen 
model, make sure it also has backup buttons and knobs for control.  I have 
periodically had my touchscreen refuse to respond to touch input, but I can use 
the buttons/knobs to make it work when that happens.  Some models only work 
through the touchscreen.   Dave

S/V Aries
1990 C&C 34+
New London, CT
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