Never heard of this before.  Thanks!  I suppose you could just add liquid
naphtha thinner?

Josh

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 11:35 dwight veinot via CnC-List <
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> I have some naphthalene moth balls which are basically pure naphthalene.
> Naphthalene sublimes from solid crystals to vapour with no liquid phase and
> no residue. it also dissolves in gasoline. It is quite effective in
> dissolving high molecular weight organics that can mess up small orifices
> such as in carbs. So I crush one mothball, add to 20 L of gas in a jerry
> can for use in outboard motors, lawn mowers, and other small gas engines. I
> use fuel stabilizer for long term storage like over winter in my lawn
> tracker and i shut off the fuel supply and drain the carb. My little Honda
> 2.3 started second pull on gas left in its tank all winter. If you decide
> to try this make sure the moth balls are the naphthalene type.
>
> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:10 PM Josh Muckley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Bruce,
>>
>> I too have NOT been made aware of Supreme/93 octane being made by default
>> without ethanol.  The octane rating is often achieved by simply adding
>> toluene.  I've even seen plans for toluene injection systems designed for
>> performance vehicles.  As I understand it the octane doesn't add power or
>> BTUs/gallon but rather changes the likelihood of combustion due to the heat
>> of compression (ping/pre-detonation).  I'll look for a better explanation
>> and post back.
>>
>> Anecdotally, I exclusively use 93 octane in ALL my applications and I
>> have had small engines with what seem to be trouble due to "stale" gas.  In
>> many cases they had had previous owners so it is unknown exactly what
>> caused the problems or if it was simply age related.  The latest was a
>> chainsaw which was ~30 years old (my late father's).  I didn't perform an
>> autopsy but just simply replaced the carb.  During the replacement I found
>> all of the rubber parts to be in remarkably good condition with the
>> exception of the impulse fuel line which kinda disintegrated upon removal.
>> With the Mantis Tiller I've shown before, I found the rubber diaphragms
>> to be cracked and taking a set.  Again, previous owners could have done
>> anything so who knows.  I've also had two 5Hp Briggs and Stratton engines
>> which sat for years with old gas in the carb.  They had clear signs of
>> deposits and varnish which degraded their performance until it was cleaned
>> up.  These 2 specific engines were in my care (or lack there of) since
>> new.  I don't buy low octane gas so the octane could not have simply been
>> the cause.
>>
>> As a side note the first 2 engines were 2 stroke and the second 2 were 4
>> stroke.  My diagnosis is that each pair may have experienced 2 different
>> failure mechanisms.  In the first 2, the degradation of the rubber and
>> plastic-ish parts.  This is consistent with ethanol related failures.  In
>> the second 2, it appeared that varnish/deposits had developed and clogged
>> the small ports and orifices.  This is consistent with allowing the gas to
>> remain in the system and ultimately evaporating, leaving behind the
>> normally low concentrations of non-volatile substances as deposits. This
>> effect is what I believe makes up the varnish.  In cleaning these deposits
>> I found that carb cleaner was more or less ineffective and that mechanical
>> removal was necessary.
>>
>> Oddly, I believe that both of these failure mechanisms can be prevented
>> by "running out" the fuel when done using the equipment.  Don't just turn
>> of the engine but rather starve it out by shutting of the gas.  There may
>> be something to be said about the oil in 2 stroke fuel helping to prevent
>> evaporation and the formation of deposits.  Who knows.
>>
>> Josh Muckley
>> S/V Sea Hawk
>> 1989 C&C 37+
>> Solomons, MD
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 10:16 bwhitmore via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I don't agree,  at least here in the U.S. that premium gas doesn't have
>>> ethanol in it.  There are,  however,  gas stations that have a pump
>>> reserved for non-ethanol gas.
>>>
>>> Bruce
>>>
>>>
>>>
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