Gary,

I have a dripless and as Jeff put it, it was one of the best improvements I 
made. My bilge is completely dry.
When I installed it (7 years ago), I too replaced everything: the shaft, 
coupling, cutlass bearing. My original shaft was bronze(?), I replaced it with 
SS.

Installation is not that complicated (especially, if you are cutting the old 
shaft). You will need to press out (and then in) the cutlass bearing. Best is 
to find a tool (or make it yourself).

A couple of potential gotchas:
- you will need more room between the log shaft and the coupling. Measure well 
before you order anything. In my case, there was about 1 cm (1/2") left on the 
shaft. Not much room to manoeuvre.
- get yourself a retention collar. Either from PYI, or from somewhere else. I 
believe it is worth its $30 price.
- if you don't do it right the first time around, don't reuse the retention 
screws (they get dull after each attempt). You can use the outside screws for 
the inside and get away with it once. (But see above (retention collar)).
- think about venting. The new bearings have a venting tube. Think about where 
you would run it. It can spit water if you put your transmission in reverse 
abruptly (like when docking or maneuvering in tight spot). If you don't do it 
right, all the benefits of dripless are gone, because you have water in the 
bilge. Some people put a drink bottle at the end of the venting tube (and then 
empty the bottle occasionally). I, eventually, plumbed it into the sink drain.
- the new bearings come with plastic or SS venting tube. I would pay more for 
the SS.
- measure properly how much initial compression you need to put on the collar. 
Many installers don't squeeze it enough.

Btw. I agree that with the availability of Teflon packing, the traditional 
packing gland would be worth considering. I am not sure which way I would go 
now. The benefit of the traditional packing gland is that.. it is traditional, 
but the seal is between the gland and the rotating shaft (its circumference). 
Eventually, the shaft has to wear off. The dripless does not use shaft for the 
seal (it has two special elements SS and carbon that are mated to each other 
and serve as a seal). In the end it is a wash; you have to remove the shaft to 
replace the bellows or the seals with the dripless, so you don't buy that much 
in the process.

Enjoy the dry bilge

Marek

1994 C270 #122 "Legato"
Ottawa, ON



From: CnC-List On Behalf Of Jeffrey A. Laman via CnC-List
Sent: 15 April, 2020 17:16
To: David Risch <davidrisc...@msn.com>; cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Jeffrey A. Laman <jlam...@outlook.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List [EXTERNAL] Dripless shaft seal for 35 mkIII

Lots of opinions abundantly expressed previously regarding pros and cons of 
dripless vs stuffing box.

As for installation of dripless, those who have dripless might help Joe out?

I replaced everything -- coupling, shaft, dripless, cutlass bearing.  The shaft 
and coupling need to be machined at the same time for proper fit.  My shaft was 
badly damaged due to coupling failure, so the decision to replace all was easy. 
 Others might attempt to get away with reuse.  Up to you, but read the advice.

Removing the cutlass bearing can be a real challenge, but never do the job 
without replacing this.  The opportunity doesn't present itself often -- and be 
glad.  You can make a tool to get the old bearing out.  There are all kinds of 
youtube videos and advice on this.  Press fit also so need to put the bearing 
on ice first.

I did the job myself -- heated the coupling, cooled the shaft, slid the shaft 
in, tap tap to get it correctly positioned, and tightened it down.  Make sure 
you have all the parts on the shaft, everything checked and double checked 
before you slide the shaft into the coupling -- it's not coming back out.

And my 2 cents -- the dripless is one of the best improvements I made to the 
boat.  Do it!

Jeff Laman
1981 C&C34 "Harmony"
Ludington, MI

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Subject: [EXTERNAL] Stus-List Dripless shaft seal for 35 mkIII

I am looking for information on installing a dripless shaft seal on my 35 MK 
III. Looking for shaft log size on other 35 MK III's and any problems 
encountered with installation.
Gary Newton
1987 35' MK III
SV KNOT RIGHT

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