Wow, that is quite the story. Probably worth adding to my safety routine if we have visitors aboard is a strong reminder to stay on the boat, even if it seems like jumping in for a swim is a good idea. Everyone around here is familiar with big ferries, so maybe likening it to jumping off a ferry would be a good analogy. Jumping off a moving sailboat is not a lot different, but a novice may not realize it. Building a MOB pole is on my list also - we used one last year during a training session - toss the pole at full sail, and then rescue, under sail. Good skill to practice. We have a lifering, apparently the "lifesling" don't meet regulations here, although many have them.
-- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 6:18 PM Matt Wolford via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > Wow, Bill, that’s quite a story. My (now) father-in-law pulled one of > those jump-off-the-boat-to-be-funny routines. I was not amused, but no one > got hurt. > > > > *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> *On Behalf Of *Bill > Coleman via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2020 7:01 PM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Bill Coleman <colt...@gmail.com> > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Dumb question of the day - life rings, horseshoe > or cushion? > > > > That certainly sounds like good advice. I now keep lots of throwables in > the cockpit. > > > > I recall an incident that happened to me around 20 years ago. We were > headed back to the harbor on a beautiful 4th of July weekend, as squalls > were about an hour away. For some reason, my daughter and her friend who > were laying on the foredeck thought it would be a good idea if one of them > hopped over and said, oh save me, and the other was to jump in to save > her. They were both on the swim team, so, of course good swimmers. As I > saw the first one go over I said a couple of expletives, and told my other > daughter in the cockpit to throw the first one a zip up life preserver > which happened to be hanging over the lifelines drying. Then and my > daughter on the foredeck jumped over after her friend, a couple more > expletives, and I said throw the other PFD. I never even thought of the > horseshoe, but in this case it was for the best. The first girl did get the > life preserver, and zipped it on herself just before a 20-ft I-O steamed > over the top of her and chopped her thigh half off. This all happened > before I had even jibed. (at that time I didn’t even know what had > happened). I can say with a pretty good degree of certainty, that if she > had not gotten that life preserver on, she would never have popped back up > again and would not be a great internist today. Two months in intensive > care gave her the idea that she would like to be a doctor. And the > $1,045,000 her father sued the other guy and me for was probably didn’t > hurt. > > > > Bill Coleman > > > > > > *From:* CnC-List [mailto:cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com > <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com>] *On Behalf Of *Andrew Burton via CnC-List > *Sent:* Tuesday, March 03, 2020 11:55 AM > *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com > *Cc:* Andrew Burton > *Subject:* Re: Stus-List Dumb question of the day - life rings, horseshoe > or cushion? > > > > One of the things I stress before we head offshore is that if someone goes > overboard, absolutely everything that floats should be tossed in after > them. You're trying to create a debris field to aid in locating the MOB, > not just give them something to hang on to. > > Another thing I stress is that if you go overboard, you stand at best a > 50/50 chance of being retrieved, so stay on the boat! > > Andy > > Masquerade > > > > > > Andrew Burton > 26 Beacon Hill > Newport, RI > USA 02840 > http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ > > https://burtonsailing.com/ > phone +401 965 5260 > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 3, 2020 at 11:48 AM Joel Aronson via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > There are 3 tasks - throwing something to assist the MOB, finding them and > getting them back on board. A ring, horseshoe,cushion for the first. We > have an inflatable MOB pole for the second (with AIS in our lifejackets > offshore) for the second and the Lifesling for retrieval. > > thankful none have been deployed. > > > > Joel > > > > On Mon, Mar 2, 2020 at 8:28 PM James Nichols via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Bruce, > > Horseshoes are about the easiest for someone in the water to get themselves > into because they just dive over the open end and hang from it. Kind of > like > floating on a pool noodle. As someone else mentioned, they tend to be > light, so they don't fly well in a wind, or even without wind. Mine has a > loop for attaching a rope so that you can get another try, haul the person > in, or circle around and pull the float to the person. I think the rope > actually flies further than the horseshoe. > > Horseshoes and throwable cushions meet the minimum standards, but again, as > mentioned previously and don't tend to be much better than trying to throw > a > life preserver. It is something to throw out instantly along with the Man > Overboard Marker so that if the person is conscious and able to swim, they > can head for it and have something to grab onto while they are waiting for > you to deploy your other lifesaving tools or maneuver your way back in > their > direction. > > James > > Message: 1 > Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2020 22:55:18 +0000 (UTC) > From: Bruce Whitmore <bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net> > To: Cnc-list CNC Boat Owners <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List Dumb question of the day - life rings, horseshoe or > cushion? > Message-ID: <105761816.3312960.1583189718...@mail.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > So I have a lifesling and a throwable cushion.? Yet, I see lots of boats > with horseshoes, and commercial boats with life rings.? > > Is there an inherent reason for one design over another?? > > Bruce Whitmore > 1994 C&C 37/40+"Astralis"Madeira Beach, FL > (847) 404-5092 (mobile) > bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > < > http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20200302/70 > 5e82ec/attachment-0001.html> > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > > > > > -- > > Joel > > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. 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