Everyone talking about backstay tension reminded me of a project I was
looking to do this winter; rebuild the backstay tensioner. It's the
original navtec one with the handle and guage built-in. There's always a
bit of oil on the ram when it's extended so I'm guessing just needs a new
seal.

1) Is there a recommended place to get these serviced since Navtec is out
of business? I'm in Chicago so hopefully something in the midwest.

2) I'm relatively handy, is it something that can be DIY? If so any idea
where to get parts? I could care less about the guage (like others I have a
marked batten)

3) If I wanted to to the replace route any recommendations on manufacturers
(there are several) and sizes?

thanks in advance,
Luke
1985, 35-3 Zella

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> From: Patrick Gateley <patr...@gateley.org>
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> Date: Mon, 02 Dec 2019 11:50:27 -0800
> Subject: Stus-List C&C 44 Navtec backstay psi
> Hi all,
>
> We just had our backstay adjuster rebuilt and am wondering what PSI we
> should keep it at while moored?
>
> Thanks
>
> Kari and Patrick Gateley
> 1988 C&C 44' "Odessa"
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Josh Muckley <muckl...@gmail.com>
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> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 15:00:45 -0500
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Navtec backstay psi
> It's almost irrelevant.  I keep mine just more than slack so that if
> someone uses it to support themselves it won't give too much.
>
> ~500psi-ish
>
> Josh Muckley
> S/V Sea Hawk
> 1989 C&C 37+
> Solomons, MD
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019, 2:51 PM Patrick Gateley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We just had our backstay adjuster rebuilt and am wondering what PSI we
>> should keep it at while moored?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kari and Patrick Gateley
>> 1988 C&C 44' "Odessa"
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> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 20:34:49 +0000
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Navtec backstay psi
>
> On my 40 I keep mine at 1000 or thereabouts…
>
>
>
> *David F. Risch*
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> *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> *On Behalf Of *Patrick
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> *Subject:* Stus-List C&C 44 Navtec backstay psi
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> We just had our backstay adjuster rebuilt and am wondering what PSI we
> should keep it at while moored?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Kari and Patrick Gateley
>
> 1988 C&C 44' "Odessa"
>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 15:58:40 -0500
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Navtec backstay psi
> I only do about 500 pounds sitting at the dock.  I might go a little
> higher on at a mooring just because the boat bounces around more.
>
> *From:* David Risch via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
> *Sent:* Monday, December 02, 2019 3:34 PM
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> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Navtec backstay psi
>
>
> On my 40 I keep mine at 1000 or thereabouts…
>
>
>
> *David F. Risch*
>
> *(401) 419-4650*
>
>
>
> *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> *On Behalf Of *Patrick
> Gateley via CnC-List
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> *Cc:* Patrick Gateley <patr...@gateley.org>
> *Subject:* Stus-List C&C 44 Navtec backstay psi
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> We just had our backstay adjuster rebuilt and am wondering what PSI we
> should keep it at while moored?
>
>
>
> Thanks
>
>
>
> Kari and Patrick Gateley
>
> 1988 C&C 44' "Odessa"
>
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> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 16:55:29 -0600
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Navtec backstay psi
> Agree with Josh.  Just tight enough so it doesn't move much if someone
> grabs it.
>
> The lens on the pressure gauge on mine is so discolored and crazed I can't
> read the psi anyway.  It's a $300 fix.  I have a dinghy batten taped to it
> with colored tape marks.  Green (light breeze), yellow (moderate breeze),
> red (heavy breeze), black (oh, @&%$, we're going to DIE!).  I leave it at
> the bottom of the green.  I'm guessing it's about 500 psi at the dock.
>
> Dennis C.
> Touche' 35-1 #83
> Mandeville, LA
>
> On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 1:51 PM Patrick Gateley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> We just had our backstay adjuster rebuilt and am wondering what PSI we
>> should keep it at while moored?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Kari and Patrick Gateley
>> 1988 C&C 44' "Odessa"
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> Date: Mon, 2 Dec 2019 23:58:18 -0500 (EST)
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Navtec backstay psi
> I think rule of thumb for hydraulic backstay is 500 to 600# at the dock
> and no more than 25% breaking strength maximum when sailing.  For my -10
> rated for 10,000#, that's around 2500#.  Probably much higher for your
> larger backstay.   Of course this is moot if your headstay isn't set
> properly.  Some boats add a 2" toggle in winds under 15 knots to the
> headstay so the main can be flattened without over tensioning the genoa.
> Physics.
>
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute, 1989 C&C 34R
>
>
>
> On December 2, 2019 at 2:50 PM Patrick Gateley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We just had our backstay adjuster rebuilt and am wondering what PSI we
> should keep it at while moored?
>
> Thanks
>
> Kari and Patrick Gateley
> 1988 C&C 44' "Odessa"
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> Cc:
> Bcc:
> Date: Tue, 3 Dec 2019 08:32:59 -0500
> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 44 Navtec backstay psi
> The new HARKEN backstay adjusters are being shipped without a gage.   I
> have a Sailtec on my C&C 36.  It does have a gauge but I have a batten
> taped to the adjuster and it is marked such that it can be adjusted based
> on the marks which equate to known weather conditions rather than rely on
> the pressure gage which is barely readable    At the dock I tension it
> enough to make sure that the mast is not moving.
>
> Sail Safe,
>
> Mike
>
>
> Mikel Brannon
> Virginia Lee 93295
> C&C 36 CB
> Virginia Beach, VA
>
>
>
> On Dec 2, 2019, at 11:58 PM, CHARLES SCHEAFFER via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> I think rule of thumb for hydraulic backstay is 500 to 600# at the dock
> and no more than 25% breaking strength maximum when sailing.  For my -10
> rated for 10,000#, that's around 2500#.  Probably much higher for your
> larger backstay.   Of course this is moot if your headstay isn't set
> properly.  Some boats add a 2" toggle in winds under 15 knots to the
> headstay so the main can be flattened without over tensioning the genoa.
> Physics.
>
> Chuck Scheaffer, Resolute, 1989 C&C 34R
>
>
>
> On December 2, 2019 at 2:50 PM Patrick Gateley via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> We just had our backstay adjuster rebuilt and am wondering what PSI we
> should keep it at while moored?
>
> Thanks
>
> Kari and Patrick Gateley
> 1988 C&C 44' "Odessa"
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