Hi Blair,

Yes replacing hoses may be required, and WM will push you hose right away!.  
First I’d go to the pump-out on a weekday, suck everything you can, fill and do 
it again.  If nobody is waiting maybe even a third time if you are new to the 
boat.  Pour a couple gal. of water or run the hose into the toilet and really 
flush out the bottom of the tank. Sailing and banging the boat helps shake the 
old flakes out.   

The vent is critical, and must be clean!!!  Repeat:  The vent is critical, and 
must be clean!!!  Run water through the vent line so it’s being sucked in, 
while sucking out the tank.  If you don’t hear it gurgling and sucking - your 
vent hose is plugged.  Usually with old shit or maybe bugs. Maybe you can get a 
wire in to help, or replace that line first.  The bugs that grow in the tank 
with-out air, really smell the worse!  

When you have a clean vented tank, at Noflex, mix like yeast.  It’s the dried 
version of the “bugs” that you want in your tank.  Kathleen flushes maybe a 
quart through the system after pump outs.

Use your boat all year if possible - it might take a year or two, some hard 
sailing, and a lot of flushes before you see very few dried compacted flakes 
being sucked out.

We bring a few 1/2 gal. milk jugs down to the head, and flush with fresh water. 
 If you are day sailing and back to the dock, and it’s easy to top up you water 
tank, flush with the sprayer or a jug.  Whenever you leave the boat, even an 
afternoon, especially for a week or more, flush with fresh water! 

Some folks have a pump-out service, and you should see how quick they can 
“service” your boat, likely on and off in under 3 min. - ouch!    The nice 
thing about going to the pump-out - you are using your boat, which keeps many 
systems working, tips you off on the problems, and gives you lots of practice 
docking - a very good thing.  Again, try to go weekday mornings, not Sunday 
afternoons when everyone is cranky and eager to get off the boat!  Never on 
Labor Day!

Hope this helps, Lee
Living aboard a 1974 C&C 35-II
Wow, 11+ years!

> On Oct 2, 2019, at 11:52 16AM, Blair Clark via CnC-List 
> <cnc-l...@cnc-list.com> wrote:
> 
> I beg patience as i am hoping there is some quick troubleshooting hints that 
> can be provided.
> 
> Purchased a 1990 C&C 34 +. really really happy with boat and currently 
> working  through some smaller items to get her up to speed.
> 
> one of these involves the holding tank. My jabsco manual toilet exits through 
> a Y valve to sea or to  holding tank.  No external macerator system is in 
> place.. Even when Y valve set to sea I am having a smell go away and then 
> return to the head area.
> 
> Holding tank was pumped before transport after purchase and appears close to 
> empty.
> 
> Steps to date:
> 
> 1) Had a group out on the boat
> 2) next day head ines appeared blocked as there was back pressure on handle
> 3) removed lines got shop vacuum cleared lines and flushed with vinegar and 
> water
> 4 thought everything would be good
> 5) Noticed smell in head
> 2) noticed back flow of liquid into bowl
> 3) again fought with stiff lines and replaced joker valve
> 3) back flow and  Smell went away
> 4) a few days later after not using boat the smell came back but not from 
> toilet bowl
> 5) noticed that when I opened door under vanity sink bowl in the space that 
> houses the holding tank that the smell was more extreme
> 6) thought of taking tank out to inspect during winter but have no idea how 
> to access it to do so.
> 
> Does anyone have any suggestions as to troubleshoot tsmell, holding tank or 
> lines and or remove tank?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Blair
> C&C 34+
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