Here is a link to the 37+ owners manual. I kept my navy light housings and put in LEDs from Defender
On smelly head, I replaced all my hoses, the head, the anti siphon and the y valve. I put fresh water in every flush using the head sink faucet that I replaced with an extendable hose faucet. Also this device is amazing: SeaSmart Marine Marine Toilet Sanitizer Rich Hulit Kindred. 1988 37+ wing keel 917 854-5537 rhhu...@optonline.net Sent from my iPhone please excuse typos > On Oct 2, 2019, at 3:39 PM, cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com wrote: > > Send CnC-List mailing list submissions to > cnc-list@cnc-list.com > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://cnc-list.com/mailman/listinfo/cnc-list_cnc-list.com > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > cnc-list-requ...@cnc-list.com > > You can reach the person managing the list at > cnc-list-ow...@cnc-list.com > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of CnC-List digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Smelly head (Blair Clark) > 2. Re: Smelly head (Jeff Helsdingen) > 3. Re: Potable water conservation (Bailey White) > 4. Re: Smelly head (Shawn Wright) > 5. Aqua Signal Lights on a 37+ (Chuck Saur) > 6. Re: Smelly head (David Castor) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 18:52:16 +0000 > From: Blair Clark <blairalcl...@hotmail.com> > To: CNC List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Stus-List Smelly head > Message-ID: > > <bn8pr06mb5715a2797838844d1a520248c1...@bn8pr06mb5715.namprd06.prod.outlook.com> > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > I beg patience as i am hoping there is some quick troubleshooting hints that > can be provided. > > Purchased a 1990 C&C 34 +. really really happy with boat and currently > working through some smaller items to get her up to speed. > > one of these involves the holding tank. My jabsco manual toilet exits through > a Y valve to sea or to holding tank. No external macerator system is in > place.. Even when Y valve set to sea I am having a smell go away and then > return to the head area. > > Holding tank was pumped before transport after purchase and appears close to > empty. > > Steps to date: > > 1) Had a group out on the boat > 2) next day head ines appeared blocked as there was back pressure on handle > 3) removed lines got shop vacuum cleared lines and flushed with vinegar and > water > 4 thought everything would be good > 5) Noticed smell in head > 2) noticed back flow of liquid into bowl > 3) again fought with stiff lines and replaced joker valve > 3) back flow and Smell went away > 4) a few days later after not using boat the smell came back but not from > toilet bowl > 5) noticed that when I opened door under vanity sink bowl in the space that > houses the holding tank that the smell was more extreme > 6) thought of taking tank out to inspect during winter but have no idea how > to access it to do so. > > Does anyone have any suggestions as to troubleshoot tsmell, holding tank or > lines and or remove tank? > > Thanks, > > Blair > C&C 34+ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20191002/a15de81e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 14:58:42 -0400 > From: Jeff Helsdingen <onemorej...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Smelly head > Message-ID: > <CAEmzyRZRapHBu=inLYVOAB3eH=0n7RHrQ0Zm76vk8_0p1=0...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Even the good read expensive hose smells bad after a while. If yours is > still original it's probably due to be replaced. Possibly the tank as well. > I've heard it is better to use fresh water from the head faucet to flush > rather than sea water too. What we did to get rid of the smells was to yank > all of it out and go with a composting head. So far so good. Good luck. > > Jeff > > On Wed., Oct. 2, 2019, 2:52 p.m. Blair Clark via CnC-List, < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I beg patience as i am hoping there is some quick troubleshooting hints >> that can be provided. >> >> Purchased a 1990 C&C 34 +. really really happy with boat and currently >> working through some smaller items to get her up to speed. >> >> one of these involves the holding tank. My jabsco manual toilet exits >> through a Y valve to sea or to holding tank. No external macerator system >> is in place.. Even when Y valve set to sea I am having a smell go away and >> then return to the head area. >> >> Holding tank was pumped before transport after purchase and appears close >> to empty. >> >> Steps to date: >> >> 1) Had a group out on the boat >> 2) next day head ines appeared blocked as there was back pressure on handle >> 3) removed lines got shop vacuum cleared lines and flushed with vinegar >> and water >> 4 thought everything would be good >> 5) Noticed smell in head >> 2) noticed back flow of liquid into bowl >> 3) again fought with stiff lines and replaced joker valve >> 3) back flow and Smell went away >> 4) a few days later after not using boat the smell came back but not from >> toilet bowl >> 5) noticed that when I opened door under vanity sink bowl in the space >> that houses the holding tank that the smell was more extreme >> 6) thought of taking tank out to inspect during winter but have no idea >> how to access it to do so. >> >> Does anyone have any suggestions as to troubleshoot tsmell, holding tank >> or lines and or remove tank? >> >> Thanks, >> >> Blair >> C&C 34+ >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20191002/8f230361/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 15:29:51 -0400 > From: Bailey White <bail...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Potable water conservation > Message-ID: > <CACeKiQyOaniNG2=o2_xs6vobvszhnpuc9u8igzsvtu39ru7...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I like the Whale Galley Gusher foot pumps because they do conserve water > well and are easy to use. I just replaced the galley sink one that looked > original (1979) with a new one for something like $90 shipped by Amazon. > They work very well and was an easy job. > > Bailey > C&C 36-1 > Lake Lanier, Georgia > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20191002/23d36987/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:32:51 -0700 > From: Shawn Wright <shawngwri...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Re: Stus-List Smelly head > Message-ID: > <CACGFLYUw0fi+ZQhZ0KyrAuRp5hVQRS=u+bn0zvopvact-kg...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > Our 35-2 is similar, even with new hoses and a clean tank. Much of the > smell is from organisms in salt water decomposing, as it occurs even when > the holding tank is empty. I've been told that adding over sized venting > for the holding tank will help, to reduce the anaerobic bacteria which is > causing the smell due to lack of oxygen. This is on my list. > > I suggest flushing some water into your vent line(s) from the outside to > ensure they are not plugged. In our case, the tank vent is tied into the > anti-siphon (upside-down U) on the bowl flush line, so when flushing, some > air is being drawn from the tank instead of outside, causing the smell. I > plan to add a separate vent for the head flush line to prevent this. > -- > Shawn Wright > shawngwri...@gmail.com > S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35 > https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto > > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 11:59 AM Jeff Helsdingen via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Even the good read expensive hose smells bad after a while. If yours is >> still original it's probably due to be replaced. Possibly the tank as well. >> I've heard it is better to use fresh water from the head faucet to flush >> rather than sea water too. What we did to get rid of the smells was to yank >> all of it out and go with a composting head. So far so good. Good luck. >> >> Jeff >> >> On Wed., Oct. 2, 2019, 2:52 p.m. Blair Clark via CnC-List, < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> I beg patience as i am hoping there is some quick troubleshooting hints >>> that can be provided. >>> >>> Purchased a 1990 C&C 34 +. really really happy with boat and currently >>> working through some smaller items to get her up to speed. >>> >>> one of these involves the holding tank. My jabsco manual toilet exits >>> through a Y valve to sea or to holding tank. No external macerator system >>> is in place.. Even when Y valve set to sea I am having a smell go away and >>> then return to the head area. >>> >>> Holding tank was pumped before transport after purchase and appears close >>> to empty. >>> >>> Steps to date: >>> >>> 1) Had a group out on the boat >>> 2) next day head ines appeared blocked as there was back pressure on >>> handle >>> 3) removed lines got shop vacuum cleared lines and flushed with vinegar >>> and water >>> 4 thought everything would be good >>> 5) Noticed smell in head >>> 2) noticed back flow of liquid into bowl >>> 3) again fought with stiff lines and replaced joker valve >>> 3) back flow and Smell went away >>> 4) a few days later after not using boat the smell came back but not from >>> toilet bowl >>> 5) noticed that when I opened door under vanity sink bowl in the space >>> that houses the holding tank that the smell was more extreme >>> 6) thought of taking tank out to inspect during winter but have no idea >>> how to access it to do so. >>> >>> Does anyone have any suggestions as to troubleshoot tsmell, holding tank >>> or lines and or remove tank? >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> Blair >>> C&C 34+ >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20191002/b976717e/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 15:38:32 -0400 > From: Chuck Saur <cssau...@gmail.com> > To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com > Subject: Stus-List Aqua Signal Lights on a 37+ > Message-ID: > <CAJz9xOrcvSCn7796W7Vr1ij3ANjwWHqUtmifSm=bypj0kc0...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I just saw a sale at Defender on replacement lenses for Aqua Signal Series > 41 side lights and stern light, and might be what I need to replace mine, > but am nowhere near the boat to see what model light I have. I do know > they are Aqua Signal brand. If you have them, is anyone able to check the > model number for 1990 37/40+ lights? Would be a great help!! Thanks!!!! > > *Chuck Saur* > > Daydream > > C&C 37/40+ > -------------- next part -------------- > An HTML attachment was scrubbed... > URL: > <http://cnc-list.com/pipermail/cnc-list_cnc-list.com/attachments/20191002/9a1dc813/attachment-0001.html> > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Wed, 2 Oct 2019 12:38:51 -0700 > From: David Castor <dpcas...@gmail.com> > To: "C&C List" <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> > Subject: Re: Stus-List Smelly head > Message-ID: > <caeu_st1crvwvt7amtolj+j5xbem8a+g4b5shymeu9nhxwyr...@mail.gmail.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > I'd suggest Peggy Hall's book on head odors. Still in print, I think. I > agree with previous comment that stagnant seawater used for flushing can > create an incredible foul odor. Flush some fresh water through the head > into the tank. There is a simple test for condition of hoses. Covered in > Peggy's book and in Don Casey's book. I wouldn't start tearing things > out just yet. But replacing existing hoses can't hurt. Good luck. > > Dave Castor > Port Angeles, WA > > On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 12:33 PM Shawn Wright via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> Our 35-2 is similar, even with new hoses and a clean tank. Much of the >> smell is from organisms in salt water decomposing, as it occurs even when >> the holding tank is empty. I've been told that adding over sized venting >> for the holding tank will help, to reduce the anaerobic bacteria which is >> causing the smell due to lack of oxygen. This is on my list. >> >> I suggest flushing some water into your vent line(s) from the outside to >> ensure they are not plugged. In our case, the tank vent is tied into the >> anti-siphon (upside-down U) on the bowl flush line, so when flushing, some >> air is being drawn from the tank instead of outside, causing the smell. I >> plan to add a separate vent for the head flush line to prevent this. >> -- >> Shawn Wright >> shawngwri...@gmail.com >> S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35 >> https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto >> >> >> On Wed, Oct 2, 2019 at 11:59 AM Jeff Helsdingen via CnC-List < >> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >> >>> Even the good read expensive hose smells bad after a while. If yours is >>> still original it's probably due to be replaced. Possibly the tank as well. >>> I've heard it is better to use fresh water from the head faucet to flush >>> rather than sea water too. What we did to get rid of the smells was to yank >>> all of it out and go with a composting head. So far so good. Good luck. >>> >>> Jeff >>> >>> On Wed., Oct. 2, 2019, 2:52 p.m. Blair Clark via CnC-List, < >>> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I beg patience as i am hoping there is some quick troubleshooting hints >>>> that can be provided. >>>> >>>> Purchased a 1990 C&C 34 +. really really happy with boat and currently >>>> working through some smaller items to get her up to speed. >>>> >>>> one of these involves the holding tank. My jabsco manual toilet exits >>>> through a Y valve to sea or to holding tank. No external macerator system >>>> is in place.. Even when Y valve set to sea I am having a smell go away and >>>> then return to the head area. >>>> >>>> Holding tank was pumped before transport after purchase and appears >>>> close to empty. >>>> >>>> Steps to date: >>>> >>>> 1) Had a group out on the boat >>>> 2) next day head ines appeared blocked as there was back pressure on >>>> handle >>>> 3) removed lines got shop vacuum cleared lines and flushed with vinegar >>>> and water >>>> 4 thought everything would be good >>>> 5) Noticed smell in head >>>> 2) noticed back flow of liquid into bowl >>>> 3) again fought with stiff lines and replaced joker valve >>>> 3) back flow and Smell went away >>>> 4) a few days later after not using boat the smell came back but not >>>> from toilet bowl >>>> 5) noticed that when I opened door under vanity sink bowl in the space >>>> that houses the holding tank that the smell was more extreme >>>> 6) thought of taking tank out to inspect during winter but have no idea >>>> how to access it to do so. >>>> >>>> Does anyone have any suggestions as to troubleshoot tsmell, holding tank >>>> or lines and or remove tank? >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Blair >>>> C&C 34+ >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >>> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >>> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. 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