Dennis, thanks for the detailed info. I'm trying to understand picture it all, but am unclear on which sheet goes through the snatch block on the rail? I have genoa tracks on the side deck but they are used for the inner 95% jib. The outer genoa uses blocks on the toerail, which I haven't tried relocating, although I do have a few snatch blocks I could add forward to try to approximate the effect you're describing (I think). How do you attach the outboard sheet to the clew once on a reach? Do you have to luff up to do this? With our current arrangement, I know that I am losing a lot of power with the genoa, but am not always sure how to fix it, especially single handed. I suspect the genoa blocks are too far back on the toerail for anything except close reach to close hauled, and when sheeted in tight, they pull the lifelines inward.
-- Shawn Wright shawngwri...@gmail.com S/V Callisto, 1974 C&C 35 https://www.facebook.com/SVCallisto On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 4:45 PM Dennis C. via CnC-List < cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > First, if you are racing, having the whisker pole on the same side as the > boom may be prohibited in certain jurisdictions. > > Barber hauling is a complicated configuration. Basically, you are setting > a triangle using two sheets to change location of the clew of the genoa. > Generally, "barber haulers" can be set to move the clew inboard or outboard > or forward (downward). Inhauls or inhaulers can be used to move the clew > inboard to decrease the sheeting angles. > > Rather than get too deep into all of that, on Touche' we simply use what > we call the "outboard sheet". Touche' has an inboard genoa track with line > adjustable genoa cars, as we steer more off the wind and ease the genoa > sheet, we move the car forward to keep the leech from twisting off. Our > trigger to rig the outboard sheet is when the genoa sheet is eased enough > that it begins to contact the upper lifeline. At that point we attach a > snatch block to the toe rail slightly FORWARD of directly below where the > genoa sheet crosses the toe rail. > > The outboard sheet has a snap shackle which we clip into the clew ring or > the soft shackle on the clew of the genoa. The tail is run to a secondary > winch. We can control the inboard/outboard location of the clew by > proportionally tensioning the primary sheet and the outboard sheet. > However, more often than not, we simply trim exclusively on the outboard > sheet. > > Our old C&C's like to "breathe". Opening the slot allows that. Also, > moving the lead forward as the sheet is eased keeps the leech from twisting > off and dumping power. Touche' loves reaching with the outboard sheet. In > fact, in one distance race we lost 1st place by 20 seconds. In retrospect, > I think it's because we didn't rig the outboard sheet or move the car > forward on a long reaching leg. > > One thing to keep in mind is that many of the older boats did not come > with an inboard track. Touche' had short pieces of toe rail on the deck > forward of the primary winches. It was listed as an option on the original > order as "Inside fairleads rails" $75. So, rigging an outboard sheet may > simply be returning to an original configuration. > > Dennis C. > Touche' 35-1 #83 > Mandeville, LA > > On Tue, Aug 20, 2019 at 2:49 PM David Knecht via CnC-List < > cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > >> I have been reading about Barber Haulers to help with reaching by getting >> the clew further outboard and keeping the leech from twisting off. I was >> thinking of a snatch block on the toe rail and a line snap shackled to the >> clew attachment point to accomplish this. However, I have also seen people >> using their whisker pole on the leeward side to hold the genoa clew >> outboard and up. Has anyone compared these options? The pole seems more >> of a hassle, but should be more effective. Dave >> >> S/V Aries >> 1990 C&C 34+ >> New London, CT >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each >> and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - >> use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> >> _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each > and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - > use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray > >
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