I did some experimenting one time with a double reefed main/engine/jib variables in some snotty weather.
If you really need to pinch to make a lee shore etc…motor sail with 2/3rd reef and sock the main down. If however you have no need to pinch (and/or can crack off a bit) a small main with even a handkerchief of a jib present makes a big difference to speed and balance. I believe it’s the creation of the slot by the jib that boosts speed and pointing. But when you can really start cracking off…get rid of the main first (before the off-wind pressure loads it up and it won’t come down due to friction) and unroll as much jib as helm balance allows. Speed secondary. Balance primary. You will be going plenty fast. David F. Risch Gulf Stream Associates (401) 419-4650 From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via CnC-List Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 2:44 PM To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com Cc: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com> Subject: Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim I'm on the same page as Fred. I just reeve the second and third reefs. Our boats are so easily-driven we don't lose much by going straight to two reefs, if we're not racing. Andy Andrew Burton 139 Tuckerman Ave Middeltown, RI USA 02842 http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/ phone +401 965 5260 On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 2:37 PM Frederick G Street via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: I may be a bit lazy, as I’m a cruiser and not a racer; or maybe it’s just the way the reef points are set up on my main. But I don’t even reeve the first main any more. If things pick up, I go straight to the second reef. Less fiddling, and I’ve never missed the sail area between the first and second reef. The headsail tends to be the primary driver on our boats, anyway. — Fred Fred Street -- Minneapolis S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: Until it is really blowing, I always prefer to have both (preferably small) sails up. This provides for better balance and gives me more options for adjusting the sails. This is particularly helpful when going upwind, because the two sails work together. If I were in your place, I would try to take the second reef on the main and let some of the jib out. The furled jib has an advantage that you can reduce it or unfurl a bit, as the situation warrants. If reefing the main was not the option (as you mentioned), I would do what Andrew suggested – I would drop the main and use the jib alone. Different boats behave differently in that situation (you may have problems tacking and you may have quite a bit of a lee helm), but again, your furled sail can be easily adjusted up or down, as the situation changes. To be completely honest, I would have dropped to the second reef at 20 kt. and adjust the jib (more initially, less eventually). I always subscribe to the idea to “do what is necessary, before it is necessary”. Additionally, at high wind, I prefer a smaller main – or you get way too much weather helm. Marek 1994 C270 Legato Ottawa, ON _______________________________________________ Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray
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