I did some experimenting one time with a double reefed main/engine/jib 
variables in some snotty weather.

If you really need to pinch to make a lee shore etc…motor sail with 2/3rd reef 
and sock the main down.

If however you have no need to pinch (and/or can crack off a bit) a small main 
with even a handkerchief of a jib present makes a big difference to speed and 
balance.   I believe it’s the creation of the slot by the jib  that boosts 
speed and pointing.

But when you can really start cracking off…get rid of the main first (before 
the off-wind pressure loads it up and it won’t come down due  to friction) and 
unroll as much jib as helm balance allows.   Speed secondary.  Balance primary. 
 You will be going plenty fast.

David F. Risch
Gulf Stream Associates
(401) 419-4650

From: CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> On Behalf Of Andrew Burton via 
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Sent: Tuesday, June 18, 2019 2:44 PM
To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
Cc: Andrew Burton <a.burton.sai...@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: Stus-List Heavy weather sail trim

I'm on the same page as Fred. I just reeve the second and third reefs. Our 
boats are so easily-driven we don't lose much by going straight to two reefs, 
if we're not racing.

Andy

Andrew Burton
139 Tuckerman Ave
Middeltown, RI
USA 02842
http://sites.google.com/site/andrewburtonyachtservices/
phone  +401 965 5260


On Tue, Jun 18, 2019 at 2:37 PM Frederick G Street via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:
I may be a bit lazy, as I’m a cruiser and not a racer; or maybe it’s just the 
way the reef points are set up on my main.  But I don’t even reeve the first 
main any more.  If things pick up, I go straight to the second reef.  Less 
fiddling, and I’ve never missed the sail area between the first and second 
reef.  The headsail tends to be the primary driver on our boats, anyway.

— Fred

Fred Street -- Minneapolis
S/V Oceanis (1979 C&C Landfall 38) -- Bayfield, WI


On Jun 18, 2019, at 1:28 PM, Marek Dziedzic via CnC-List 
<cnc-list@cnc-list.com<mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote:

Until it is really blowing, I always prefer to have both (preferably small) 
sails up. This provides for better balance and gives me more options for 
adjusting the sails. This is particularly helpful when going upwind, because 
the two sails work together. If I were in your place, I would try to take the 
second reef on the main and let some of the jib out. The furled jib has an 
advantage that you can reduce it or unfurl a bit, as the situation warrants.

If reefing the main was not the option (as you mentioned), I would do what 
Andrew suggested – I would drop the main and use the jib alone. Different boats 
behave differently in that situation (you may have problems tacking and you may 
have quite a bit of a lee helm), but again, your furled sail can be easily 
adjusted up or down, as the situation changes.

To be completely honest, I would have dropped to the second reef at 20 kt. and 
adjust the jib (more initially, less eventually). I always subscribe to the 
idea to “do what is necessary, before it is necessary”. Additionally, at high 
wind, I prefer a smaller main – or you get way too much weather helm.

Marek
1994 C270 Legato
Ottawa, ON
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