Walk away. Life is too short and parts too expensive to justify a project
boat IMO.





On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 8:02 AM Shawn Wright via CnC-List <
cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:

> Here in BC, good boats seem to move quickly if they are priced fairly.
> There is a C&C 30 for $55K which hasn't sold, and another very nice one at
> $24K which also hasn't sold, but I've watched several average condition
> Catalina 30s sell for 20K in the past year. A Hunter 31 sold last week for
> $25K within a few days.
>
> This 35-2 was listed a year ago for $35K, then dropped to 32K when I saw
> it in January. I offered $20K, and we settled at 22K.
> This boat was surveyed at $38K, but I suspect the previous owner knew the
> surveyor, as there were NO issues found on the survey, which I've never
> seen before. The sketchy wiring alone would usually be mentioned - the mast
> light wires appear to be brown household lamp cord, unless there is marine
> wire that looks just like it. But that doesn't bother me all that much
> since I will eventually replace most of the wire, unless I can confirm it
> is marine grade and in good condition. I have an IT background and have
> wired data centres with 1000s of cables in a 12x12 room, so a boat is
> pretty simple.
>
> I have to decide if, after assessing the work to be done, the boat is
> still worth it to me. The owner has already said he would not lower the
> price further than 21500 even if issues appear on a survey or inspection.
> So far, nothing aside from a few lights not working have appeared. I would
> like a boat I can feel comfortable taking to Mexico, and maybe even the
> South Pacific, and I don't know if this boat is up to the task, even with
> all the work done. And if we have to sell it, I will not likely get
> anything back for the work I put in, especially with a VW engine, even if I
> make it look nice...
>
>
>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2019 at 7:44 AM Neil E. Andersen via CnC-List <
> cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote:
>
>> Jim,
>>
>>
>>
>> I think your friend is overly pessimistic.  We are not seeing that kind
>> of  differential on boats here on the east coast where my firm operates
>> (MD, VA, SC, FL).
>>
>>
>>
>> Neil
>>
>> 1982 C&C 32, FoxFire
>>
>> Rock Hall MD
>>
>>
>>
>> Full disclosure, I am a Yacht Broker
>>
>> *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> *On Behalf Of *jim
>> aridas via CnC-List
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:36 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* jim aridas <jarid...@msn.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 concerns
>>
>>
>>
>> The market for auxiliary sail is SO soft. For 25k you can get a really
>> great turn key boat. Most boats are selling for 1/2 of asking price, as per
>> a friend who owns a yacht brokerage company out of Central NJ.
>>
>> Jim
>>
>> Galaxy 34
>>
>> Get Outlook for Android <https://aka.ms/ghei36>
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>>
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>>
>> *From:* CnC-List <cnc-list-boun...@cnc-list.com> on behalf of
>> rjcasciato--- via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com>
>> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 24, 2019 10:28:28 AM
>> *To:* cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> *Cc:* rjcasci...@comcast.net
>> *Subject:* Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 concerns
>>
>>
>>
>> Shawn, I agree with Bruce......
>> Let this one go....
>> If you're retired, then you are already operating on "Life Minutes "....
>> Don't spend them of stuff like this....
>>
>> Ron
>> Impromptu
>> C&C 38 MKII
>> 1977.
>>
>> My boat looks and races like it just came out of the mold.....you don't
>> want to know how much time and money that takes.
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Xfinity Connect Application
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>>
>> From: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> To: cnc-list@cnc-list.com
>> Cc: bwhitm...@sbcglobal.net
>> Sent: 2019-04-24 7:24:48 AM
>> Subject: Re: Stus-List C&C 35-2 concerns
>>
>> Hi Shawn,
>>
>>
>>
>> Realistically,  I think you should walk away  from that boat.  There are
>> just too many owner modifications that have not been done by someone who
>> knows what they are doing in a marine environment.  Consider finding the
>> right boat, even at a distance in the right condition at the right price,
>> even if you have to have it trucked to you.  You'll end up spending the
>> equivalent cost to move the boat just getting this one in proper shape,
>> and  you'll avoid a lot of heartburn.
>>
>>
>>
>> When we bought our boat, we knew that the fresh water, propane, and
>> charging system all had issues, the sail covers desperately needed to be
>> replaced, and while kept relatively clean it had basically sat at the dock
>> for years.  However the boat was basically sound, having had a lot of
>> professional upgrades added 8 years earlier.  Two years later, we have a
>> great boat, but our project list has now exceeded 200 individual small
>> projects, we're down to 22 short term and 15 long term (mostly to be done
>> at haulout).  Yet, last weekend I found another where a wire leading out
>> from the battery charger had corroded due to poor installation.  That, in
>> turn is driving me to add a 3rd battery to the house bank while I'm at
>> it...  And, though I enjoy working on my boat, I'm getting a little tired
>> seeing a list with some of the same items still staring at me 24 months
>> in.
>>
>>
>>
>> There's no way I would intentionally buy a boat that I think might need
>> to be fully rewired.  Good wire and connectors add up more quickly than you
>> think, and that's one of those jobs that will require a LOT gymnastics
>> inside of tight places!
>>
>>
>>
>> Sorry to be the downer here, but you're asking for opinions...
>>
>>
>>
>> Bruce Whitmore
>>
>> 1994 C&C 37/40+"Astralis "
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Samsung tablet.
>>
>>
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