I second Dave’s advice. My wife was always uncomfortable with heeling, so asked that we only charter catamarans when bareboating. Well, this spring she took a one-week liveaboard sailing course series (ASA-101, 103, and 104) on a Beneteau 43 monohull in the USVI the week before we and friends chartered a cat in the BVI. After those experiences she said she’d prefer to charter monohulls in the future. :)
Regarding stability, there’s a good discussion of it in https://www.amazon.com/Yacht-Design-According-Perry-Shaped/dp/007146557X <https://www.amazon.com/Yacht-Design-According-Perry-Shaped/dp/007146557X>. Hull shape has a lot to do with it. I assume the stability diagram you’re referring to is the plot of Dellenbaugh angle vs. LWL for all C&C boats at http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/stability.htm <http://www.cncphotoalbum.com/technical/stability.htm>. The caveats there say the Dellenbaugh angle is an approximation only, and a preliminary tool for comparing one vessel to another. Perry says boats with low initial stability (i.e. tender boats) give a softer ride in waves, and often have better ultimate stability (resistance to turtling), than stiff boats. That said, as an owner of one of the stiffest boats on that stability diagram, the famously stiff 30 MK I, I’ll tell you that I like her stiffness. I sail her on a lake, so a soft ride in waves is not that big an issue for me. Racing in Colorado summer evenings I'm often subjected to sudden and gusty thunderstorm winds. I’ve found I can carry full sail (full main and 150 genoa) to about 25 knots, and still have a hard time getting a rail in the water. I’ve had several occasions where I’ve torn a headsail before getting the side deck wet. More tender boats in my club have to de-power or even retire in those conditions. The 30 MK I’s stiffness has helped me to trust the boat and know what she can take. I also agree with Morgan that racing sailors may dote on their boats obsessively. :) It’s good that you’re trying to make an informed decision, and I wish you luck with it. I’m just adding a couple bits of information. Best Regards, Randy Stafford S/V Grenadine C&C 30-1 #7 Ken Caryl, CO > On Apr 16, 2019, at 7:52 PM, Dave. via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com> wrote: > > Shawn, > Not sure if this is an answer to your question but I have some thoughts. I > have not sailed on either the Erickson or C&C 29 but both are good well made > brands. > My best advise for you is to encourage your wife to find a local “Learn to > Sail” program so that she can learn to be comfortable under sail. All > sailboats heal in a breeze tender or not and if this makes her uncomfortable > you will be doing a lot of single handed sailing. If you too are a beginner > you should take a class together so she can learn to trust your skills. She > needs to be able to trust you in the boat. Once someone becomes frightened in > a sailboat it is a hard thing to overcome. Adults are much harder to teach to > sail than children mostly because of the fear factor. > Also, I’m a real believer in the “smaller cheaper” boat for almost anyone but > certainly for someone who is new to the sport. While sailing a smaller boat, > everything is easier to manage, forces are less and maintenance is simpler > and everything costs less. My wife and I have sailed our entire lives and our > biggest boat is our current C&C 33 and we sometimes think about downsizing. > We spent many years racing and cruising a Newport 27 (a C&C design) sometimes > with and sometimes without our two children. It was plenty big enough for our > family. > Anyway, that is my two cents. > Dave. > SLY > 1965 C&C 33 > > Sent from my iPad > > On Apr 16, 2019, at 6:00 PM, Shawn Wright via CnC-List <cnc-list@cnc-list.com > <mailto:cnc-list@cnc-list.com>> wrote: > >> I'm interested in opinions of a '77 C&C 29. There is one named "Tooth & >> Nail" that has been for sale in Vancouver for some time now. The photos look >> good, apparently has a good sail inventory, decent Yanmar engine, wheel >> steering. Apparently a popular local race boat (so it may be beat up?) >> >> It doesn't seem likely that we're going to find a 35' this season, so I'm >> looking at smaller, cheaper boats so we can begin sailing while still keep >> an eye out for the right boat. At the moment, the smaller, cheaper boats >> include a very well kept Ericson 29, and this C&C 29, both for around $12K >> CAD. >> >> One reason I overlooked the 29 in the past was based on where it sits on the >> stability diagram - right at the top among the most tender of all boats. How >> serious a concern is this for cruising as keelboat beginners? I don't want >> to scare my wife, who has very little sailing experience, with a very tender >> boat. She gets uncomfortable when sailing on a friend's Macgregor 26, which >> seems to heel over at the slightest gust. >> >> -- >> Shawn Wright >> shawngwri...@gmail.com >> <mailto:shawngwri...@gmail.com>_______________________________________________ >> >> Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and >> every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use >> PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >> <https://www.paypal.me/stumurray> >> > _______________________________________________ > > Thanks everyone for supporting this list with your contributions. Each and > every one is greatly appreciated. If you want to support the list - use > PayPal to send contribution -- https://www.paypal.me/stumurray >
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